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Old 09-16-2007, 01:06 AM
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Default new combo any comments?

well gonna ditch the 6sp and go th400. here is what i got im mind let me know if you got any commments or good ideas thanks.

th400 neal chance built possibly, MVB prolly no TB
yank 8in 4500 stall.
rear 35spline gun drilled spooled. (35 detroit now)
3.89 gears.
26ET DR for NA. 28ET DRAG for nitrous.
150 to 200 shots and may go as high as 300 shot.
going for 3200-3300 race weight.
1 7/8 headers QTPs with Y and spiral muffler off the Y with a turndown.

(im going to go back and install the cam strait 113 up to add to the top end as it peaks my 6000 now.)



so for with the slipping clutch 6sp at 3590lbs on the 275-40-17 ET DRS it went 11.30 @ almost 126.

i did prostars and QA1s all around. ill get more crazy with the weight reduction plus ill need a cage too. i have a wolfe molly 6pt in my kitchen havent got it in yet


any thing i missed
any ideas what it will run?

thanks yall
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it sounds awesome! I predict high 10's N/A and high 9's on the 150-200 hit and low 9's on the 300 hitter!
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thats what im hopin all on pump gas with the A/C blowing cold, P/S intact if possible.
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Originally Posted by camarokid94
thats what im hopin all on pump gas with the A/C blowing cold, P/S intact if possible.
well hopefully so! good luck!
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anyone else got anything to add
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if you'd like to drive it at all, i would strongly recommend a 9.5" converter. i know for a fact if you talk to almost any rep. converter builder they'll tell you the same thing. if you want to get some insight, talk to Marty Chance, ATI, Coan, etc and i'm 100% sure that if you still want to cruise the car at minimum, that an 8" will not make you happy.

with the weight & power of your car, you'll have no problem stalling up a properly built 9.5" converter to 4500+ on the brake if that's what you ask for. and i wouldn't realisticly expect to lose 300-400lbs Plus 50lbs+ more to offset the cage while keeping all your creature comforts. the loss of p/s, a/c, heat, heavy buckets, stock rims, etc is where everyone is able to find the majority of their weight loss. and have you already done the Prostars and now it's down to 3600lbs? or is that the weight before they were on? plus, if i'm not mistaken, i think the th400 weighs more than a 6 spd, but i could be mistaken as it's been a while since i read that thread where a guy weighed the two.

as for the trans, why would you even consider an 8" vert/th400 combo and NOT get a TB??? 100% get the brake, and only use it at the track. if you decide to sell it and go back to something with overdrive it would sell 100 x's easier (this is just a side note).

next...you don't want a 4500 stall converter! i say this because you're going to add a Decent size shot of spray and my guess is you'll likely end up blowing through the converter. i am no expert, but i would say go with something like a 3300-3500 stall with the n/a cam/gear/26" tire combo and when you want to hit the go FAST button, put on the 28's, hit the TB, and ride that biotch out!!! it would make a hell of a lot of improvement for drivability with less stall. and don't forget you can still use the brake when you're n/a and this will increase your stall by several hundred typically so you'll be getting close to the 4000 range.

finally...a Y pipe with that much power/402 cubes/1 7/8" primaries???? Yikes!!! save your money and get a set of Thunder Racing 3" True Duals or even a custom built set, dumped before the axle...you wont be dissapointed at the power gain for the little extra it will cost you if at all.

if someone thinks i'm wrong on any of this, so be it, i said i wasn't an expert. this is my personal oppinion and i and others i know have made the mistake before of going big thinking it meant going faster, and it really limited me from doing much with the car because i or they had to avoid ANY traffic like it was the plague out of fear of overheating.

Oh...and don't forget to get a nice BIG trans cooler to mount up in front of your radiator, that's a Must!


this is my $.02 and is MHO! good luck with the car!
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1 more thing...i watched the video clip in your sig...Awesome vid! but do you really do a burnout like that every time you come to the line??? looks like you enjoy putting on a show at your tires expense! lol.
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LOL LOL LOL i love the burnouts.

thats the kinda info i was lookin for thanks a bunch.

the car weights 3360 and i weight 250 so 3600 at the track yes with the prostars. ill lose 50 so count that gone. i still need to lose 50lbs i gained from havin the kid 3mo ago GGRRRRR. i gained more than she did.

i was gonna keep the Y pipe cause it weighs less than true dual setups. that was my thinking on that.

ill get a TB i just thought it was gettin outlawed in some classes???

well keep the info comming and thanks again i need outside lookin in comments
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i watched the vid again
old H/C no TQ setup and 27in slick GRRR
that was those damn MT ET STREETS those things sucked they never hooked no matter how i heated them. so i figured if i burn them off ill have to get some ME ET DRAGS made sense to me LOL
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I would get a Neal Chance converter over the Yank
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Rossler trans

Neal chance converter if you have money falling out your ***.

Fuddle for a budget converter.
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for a budget converter i would also look into a little known company called the converter shop that's doing great thingsaccording to some people i know. i'll be ordering one in a few weeks that will cost me $470 shipped. it's custom built to your specs and is cnc'd from billet steel, not fabbed or stamped. it sounds too good to be true, but i've got several guys who swear by them!

same thing happened to me, we had 2 kids inside of 3 yrs and i went from 160lbs to 240lbs.!!! i'm down to 215 now but would like to drop another 50 when all is said and done, in the name of speed! lol.

can you disconnect the wires for the brake just for those times it's not allowed? i would think that would be acceptable. and your car is lighter than i thought you were saying it was so you might be alright there then, but it'll still be hard to get it as light as you want with the comforts retained. good luck though!
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my plans are to call neal chance i tried friday b ut they were closed.
my buddie who runs 7s bought a 5000$ rossler and said it was almost all stock parts and only a coulpe upgrades so im thinkin about just building my own.
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a Rossler for $5000 has to be the TH210 and i would have to see that claim for myself. i know of several big dogs running his tranny with no issues. if that's true, i would have gone ape $hit for $5000 and a near stock trans! lol.

a good, also high dollar, alternative to Rossler would be someone like TSI or Mikes Transmissions if you don't already have someone in mind. as for the converter, for what you'll be doing i would suggest not getting a bolt together and saving the extra $600+. plus, those bolt together units are Heavy! i had a 10" a few years ago that i ended up selling and was Very surprised as to how heavy it was, especially for a smaller than stock diameter.
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Another vote for a 9.5 to 10" converter.
Another vote for a transbrake. Most footbrake classes don't allow them but as long as you don't have the button on the steering wheel (or use it) it's unlikely they'll say much. Get the brake before getting the transmission in the car, and you'll never question why after you use it for the first time!

The car will likely run mid to upper 10s based on the mph, but keep in mind the TH400 will sap more power than the 6-speed (despite the slipping clutch).

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