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well im basicly at 350rwhp right now and i dont have a tune, powerbond pully, or fast 90 and 90TB...... you think i cant get 20+ rwhp from all of that?.....your Fn crazy if you dont think so....not saying this about any of you guys, just my local guys sometimes get mad cause they got an LS1 that dont run like some of the others and want to say that the dyno is wrong or the track time lights aint working properly..... i have guys telling me my numbers arent corrected when they are, or that im spraying a 50 shot to get it to run almost 91mph at the track.... i say get a life to those people and stop being a baby!
i been drag racing and messing with cars for 15 years and i can say that never say something cant happen cause it has already more than likely happened and will happen even more in the future..... back in the day i never understood how these new"LS1" motors were putting down 310ish rwhp stock and there was no way they could run 90mph in the 1/8th with mild boltons........ i was later proved wrong time and time again so then i bought a 98 TA and then sold it to buy the bad boy 2002! but hey these car street cars, i have a fast drag car so i dont have to talk these little things up..... but they are very fast and really wake up with mild bolt on parts! but all that being said i aint no dyno king guy, i dont think numbers car cool unless you can cut somebodys *** in the car..... some of these guys putting down 500rwhp to 700rwhp not running in the 6s or 10s is rediculas! i would be ashamed to say i had alot of power but get beat by a car with 100's less rwhp than me...... big power is cool if you can make it work! if not i wouldnt talk about it JMO
i been drag racing and messing with cars for 15 years and i can say that never say something cant happen cause it has already more than likely happened and will happen even more in the future..... back in the day i never understood how these new"LS1" motors were putting down 310ish rwhp stock and there was no way they could run 90mph in the 1/8th with mild boltons........ i was later proved wrong time and time again so then i bought a 98 TA and then sold it to buy the bad boy 2002! but hey these car street cars, i have a fast drag car so i dont have to talk these little things up..... but they are very fast and really wake up with mild bolt on parts! but all that being said i aint no dyno king guy, i dont think numbers car cool unless you can cut somebodys *** in the car..... some of these guys putting down 500rwhp to 700rwhp not running in the 6s or 10s is rediculas! i would be ashamed to say i had alot of power but get beat by a car with 100's less rwhp than me...... big power is cool if you can make it work! if not i wouldnt talk about it JMO
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well im basicly at 350rwhp right now and i dont have a tune, powerbond pully, or fast 90 and 90TB...... you think i cant get 20+ rwhp from all of that?.....your Fn crazy if you dont think so....not saying this about any of you guys, just my local guys sometimes get mad cause they got an LS1 that dont run like some of the others and want to say that the dyno is wrong or the track time lights aint working properly..... i have guys telling me my numbers arent corrected when they are, or that im spraying a 50 shot to get it to run almost 91mph at the track.... i say get a life to those people and stop being a baby!
i been drag racing and messing with cars for 15 years and i can say that never say something cant happen cause it has already more than likely happened and will happen even more in the future..... back in the day i never understood how these new"LS1" motors were putting down 310ish rwhp stock and there was no way they could run 90mph in the 1/8th with mild boltons........ i was later proved wrong time and time again so then i bought a 98 TA and then sold it to buy the bad boy 2002! but hey these car street cars, i have a fast drag car so i dont have to talk these little things up..... but they are very fast and really wake up with mild bolt on parts! but all that being said i aint no dyno king guy, i dont think numbers car cool unless you can cut somebodys *** in the car..... some of these guys putting down 500rwhp to 700rwhp not running in the 6s or 10s is rediculas! i would be ashamed to say i had alot of power but get beat by a car with 100's less rwhp than me...... big power is cool if you can make it work! if not i wouldnt talk about it JMO
i been drag racing and messing with cars for 15 years and i can say that never say something cant happen cause it has already more than likely happened and will happen even more in the future..... back in the day i never understood how these new"LS1" motors were putting down 310ish rwhp stock and there was no way they could run 90mph in the 1/8th with mild boltons........ i was later proved wrong time and time again so then i bought a 98 TA and then sold it to buy the bad boy 2002! but hey these car street cars, i have a fast drag car so i dont have to talk these little things up..... but they are very fast and really wake up with mild bolt on parts! but all that being said i aint no dyno king guy, i dont think numbers car cool unless you can cut somebodys *** in the car..... some of these guys putting down 500rwhp to 700rwhp not running in the 6s or 10s is rediculas! i would be ashamed to say i had alot of power but get beat by a car with 100's less rwhp than me...... big power is cool if you can make it work! if not i wouldnt talk about it JMO
OP=> fast 90/90 + boltons will gain you maybe 5rwhp over stock ls6 intake w/o a cam, or heads. IT is simply overkill with better flowing heads IMO. However, It is a great modification to do with H/C, so just stick it on there. It is expensive, so just buy it and forget about the $$. It will show big returns when you H/C your car. Also, do yourself a favor and get it ported by either Tony mamo or vengence (I will not speculate on which is better, both do a quality job, I will say that I went With Tony and the work was fantastic). This will give you room to grow in the future. Good luck with your setup, and keep us posted if you when you get the #s after install.
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uhhh my point is for guys to stop saying stuff cant be done.....i just kinda got tired of hearing it.... i wasnt poluting anything really, sorry for that....but its in the 1/8 miles not 1/4...... i wish we had a local 1/4, trust me but as far as the cars thing...the only reason i said that is cause most guys who actually do serious drag racing dont normally talk things up for lie about times and ect..... thats the only reason i said that...... again sorry for the "ranting"
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uhhh my point is for guys to stop saying stuff cant be done.....i just kinda got tired of hearing it.... i wasnt poluting anything really, sorry for that....but its in the 1/8 miles not 1/4...... i wish we had a local 1/4, trust me but as far as the cars thing...the only reason i said that is cause most guys who actually do serious drag racing dont normally talk things up for lie about times and ect..... thats the only reason i said that...... again sorry for the "ranting"
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ya i know... it just happened to be a few threads on the same topic so i had no choice but to tell my budget bomber story and take up for the kid that nobody belived...... and yeah even though its still the dyno section these guys gotta understand its there for 2 reasons really...... to tune the car for performance and also see if you are loosing power like if your car is normally putting down 500rwhp and all the sudden you are making 410rwhp on the same dyno you know something is wrong..... but yeah no worrys man and no need to appologize...... sometimes i get on after a few beers and talk a little too much at times.....its hard not to here and there LOL cheers!
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I was in the same boat as you... plans of a H/C package this summer but wanted to do the fast 90 with the car just beening a bolt on car but it picked up 6rwhp and 5rwtq... heres the post but it doesnt have the run where i added a bowhite ported tb which was the 345rwhp and 361rwtq
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...773&highlight=
but it sure did look good cause i had it painted black...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearance-detailing/851387-painted-fast-90mm-nw-black-90mm-throttle-body.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...773&highlight=
but it sure did look good cause i had it painted black...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearance-detailing/851387-painted-fast-90mm-nw-black-90mm-throttle-body.html
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I just saw this thread sorry for the late reply.
In preparing for heads and cam later on down the line, I went to a ported Fast 90/90 last fall, on my '05 CTS-V. At that point I was pretty muych all the bolt-on's less UD Balancer and EWP.
Results are here:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...519&highlight=
Nutshell:
+9 peak rwhp
-3 peak rwtq
-9 average HP
-4 average TQ
Curves crossed at approx 5500 rpm's (lost a bunch of trq below that)
Numbers:
369 rwhp
353 rwtq
This was on FBC's mustang Dyno. I've since had it dyno'd on PSI's mustabg dyno, with the exact same mods, and was at 355 rwhp (don't recal the TQ). Dyno's are subjective
I'm dropping in a cam in the next few weeks, hopefully I can take advantage of that extra flow of the Fast 90/90. I know I won't totally be there until I get better heads (have stock 234's right now).
-Chris
In preparing for heads and cam later on down the line, I went to a ported Fast 90/90 last fall, on my '05 CTS-V. At that point I was pretty muych all the bolt-on's less UD Balancer and EWP.
Results are here:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...519&highlight=
Nutshell:
+9 peak rwhp
-3 peak rwtq
-9 average HP
-4 average TQ
Curves crossed at approx 5500 rpm's (lost a bunch of trq below that)
Numbers:
369 rwhp
353 rwtq
This was on FBC's mustang Dyno. I've since had it dyno'd on PSI's mustabg dyno, with the exact same mods, and was at 355 rwhp (don't recal the TQ). Dyno's are subjective
I'm dropping in a cam in the next few weeks, hopefully I can take advantage of that extra flow of the Fast 90/90. I know I won't totally be there until I get better heads (have stock 234's right now).
-Chris
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not to nit pick, but it is by NO MEANS A PRE-REQUISITE mod. Pre-requisite implies 'required to come before'. I think what you meant is it is a good prep mod for H/C. I agree, but I just did mine all at once.
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-Chris