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Old 04-13-2008, 11:05 AM
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Default ls7 in and 05 gto?

what would it take to convert or is it a direct drop in?
Old 04-13-2008, 11:45 AM
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Not difficult....but why not just have your current motor built to the HP/TQ you want?
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I"m not doing it one of my buddies wanted to know what all was involed in it....i figured you have to change drive shafts...motor mounts and what not
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What a waste of money, buy a good motor or just go forced induction on the one he has.
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Originally Posted by massillongoat
what would it take to convert or is it a direct drop in?
Just build up the Bottom end of the LS2 and a 300 hot and have a blast.
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Good in theory but you can build a built stroker for a lot less that will handle a lot more power!
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Originally Posted by ArklaTexan
Good in theory but you can build a built stroker for a lot less that will handle a lot more power!
and have more power for that matter as well as more options to go as for as future plans for the car.
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427's are just more name then game..........dont get me wrong I would have one but there just to expensive......402-408's are a lot cheaper.
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402 are ls2 right?
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No, LS2 is 364.
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Originally Posted by massillongoat
I"m not doing it one of my buddies wanted to know what all was involed in it....i figured you have to change drive shafts...motor mounts and what not
Yes it can be done. It has been done a few times. The dry sump route involves alittle more fabrication to mount the tank and modifing a LSx/GTO pan to work with the LS7 scavange pump. Also you'll have to do some work to the electrical system for the engine harness computer and cranktrigger and such. Look over at LS1GTO forum some cats overthere have done it. Also check out youtube or streetfire and type in ls7 gto to see one of these things run. But I'm gonna have to agree with the rest of the folks here about the cheaper route to get big gains. Unless someone wants the wow 427 factor and the money. There is alot of potential that can be had with the stock motor.
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Originally Posted by TLewis4095
Not difficult....but why not just have your current motor built to the HP/TQ you want?
I'm surprised by that response. A guy on ls1gto was planning such a swap before he died in Iraq. His wife went through with it in his honor. The shop doing the build ran a step by step build thread, and it seemed that there were a TON of little issues that had to be addresssed. Or maybe your "not difficult" meter is calibrated a lot differently than mine.
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In an old old (06 I beleive) GM High Tech Performance there's an article where a LS7 was put in an 04 GTO. There was a write up and such of what had to be changed etc. in order to work.

In my opinion I would go ahead and do a 402, 408 or 416.
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Originally Posted by Kamauxx
No, LS2 is 364.
A stroked LS2 is a 402
A stroked LS1 is a 408
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Originally Posted by ArklaTexan
A stroked LS2 is a 402
A stroked LS1 is a 408

I've never noticed this.

How come you can stroke the LS1 more than the LS2 ?

Or is it just more popular to do for the same reason?
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Originally Posted by ArklaTexan
A stroked LS2 is a 402
A stroked LS1 is a 408

Ummm no.

If you put a 4.00" crank in an LS2, it is a 402 since it also has a 4.00" bore. If you put a 4.00" crank in an LS1, it is closer to a 383 since it has a 3.9" bore. Before the LS2 block was widely available 408s became common because of the 4.00" bore iron 6.0 LQ9 block. They were usualy bored .030" over and had 4.00" cranks installed, thus 408 CID.
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Originally Posted by AlexLs1
In an old old (06 I beleive) GM High Tech Performance there's an article where a LS7 was put in an 04 GTO. There was a write up and such of what had to be changed etc. in order to work.

In my opinion I would go ahead and do a 402, 408 or 416.
I Have the issue...here's a link.
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...gto/index.html
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Originally Posted by 91Z28
Ummm no.

If you put a 4.00" crank in an LS2, it is a 402 since it also has a 4.00" bore. If you put a 4.00" crank in an LS1, it is closer to a 383 since it has a 3.9" bore. Before the LS2 block was widely available 408s became common because of the 4.00" bore iron 6.0 LQ9 block. They were usualy bored .030" over and had 4.00" cranks installed, thus 408 CID.
I should have said stroking an LS1 to 408 is more common these days sorry.
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Originally Posted by ArklaTexan
I should have said stroking an LS1 to 408 is more common these days sorry.
Its still worng, you dont stroke an LS1 to a 408. 408s are 6.0 liter iron truck blocks stroked and bored .030 over. You cant bore an LS1 like that being aluminum.
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
Its still worng, you dont stroke an LS1 to a 408. 408s are 6.0 liter iron truck blocks stroked and bored .030 over. You cant bore an LS1 like that being aluminum.
Well I learn something new everyday I guess

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