LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

why doesnt anyone run these heads

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Old 10-17-2010, 05:31 PM
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Old 10-17-2010, 05:43 PM
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It would be rude for me to turn down.. If you buy them for me I promise I will eventually put them to use.
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Because IIRC only one set actually exists for LT1s and they belong to "unstable bob gable." Not to mention the $6000+ price tag.
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Yea I saw the price tag kinda ridiculous. But just curious.
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didn't(doesn't?) big rick have a pair too?
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Originally Posted by z_speedfreak
didn't(doesn't?) big rick have a pair too?
No, Joe is right. They only made one set and that company is a giant shitbox.
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Bobby Simpson(in Houston, TX) had a pair of them and was taking his time to get them going. Almost had them setup... then someone broke into his shop and stole the intake and some other stuff. He was having a bad time with family stuff at the same time so it never materialized.
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Ya, Big Show or something was his name. Thats who I thought unstable bob gable was and I stand corrected. Guess they have two sets.
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There is a guy from Waco, TX that actually had them running on a motor (of course no dyno/track numbers). Probably about 8-9 years ago. Silver Trans Am if I recall correctly.

Another guy in Dallas had a set on a white LT1 C4 Corvette convertible, but I don't think the car ran.

All in all, there were about 7-8 sets of these heads floating around about 10 years ago.
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Rick never had them, as Dave said, Bobby had a set but the car never ran.

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Silver Trans Am if I recall correctly.
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Yea I was just curious. My buddy told me about them I didn't believe him so he showed me the website and I thought I would share
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Ya it ran but wasnt all that impressive now a days, but hell 10 years ago it was fast and cool

"following the build, the engine was dyno tested, where it proceeded to extract over 600 hp and 550 lb-ft of torque without the aid of a blower."
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They likely aren't running them because at every power level, there are better options.
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Yeah. I saw a magazine article back in the 90's (I believe it was in that period) where they dyno tested a traditional SBC and it made (for then) sick power off of a cam whose lift was only in the .3xx range. I think the main drawback was that it takes a lot of modifications to the intake manifold and the block to work with the crazy pushrod angles.

BTW- did you guys know that Formula 1 racing engines use compressed air to articulate the valves closed? A friend of mine that is heavily into F1 told me this and I was so amazed. I never really thought about those engines using anything other than say overhead cams.

Here's a link describing how it works...
http://my.speedtv.com/go/thread/view...t_id=470757845
Using this technique, these F1 engines can buzz to 19,000 RPM. This is because 'air' closes the valve. There's no need to have a heavy mechanical spring to close the valves.
The technology is VERY proprietary and there's even rules within F1 addressing piracy of this technology. Keith, my friend, said an incident occurred where a Ferrari tech quit the team and went to a rival team. He took Ferrari's 'secret' design with him to the new team and revealed the techniques to the new team. I don't remember if the new team suddenly became competitive or if someone revealed the tech pirates efforts. At any rate, the F1 committee found out, prosecuted the tech and banned his team for some period of time.
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Originally Posted by JasonShort
Another guy in Dallas had a set on a white LT1 C4 Corvette convertible, but I don't think the car ran.
Was it one of the owners of DynoTech with Chris Harrington? If so, I saw those heads on an engine on a stand back in the late 90's. Never saw it in a car though. The owner of the heads ripped Harrington off causing him to close shop. Place was a mickey mouse **** hole anyway. Lots of mouths ended up with shattered dreams and empty pockets once their car was exposed to the crookedness knows as Team Dynotech.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Was it one of the owners of DynoTech with Chris Harrington? If so, I saw those heads on an engine on a stand back in the late 90's. Never saw it in a car though. The owner of the heads ripped Harrington off causing him to close shop. Place was a mickey mouse **** hole anyway. Lots of mouths ended up with shattered dreams and empty pockets once their car was exposed to the crookedness knows as Team Dynotech.
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I could have been. I know Jordon was looking at buying that car a while back. I remember all that DynoTech stuff......wow, that was a long time ago.
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Why do certain people have green names? Are they the moderators? Its pretty sick. Ill go with some AI heads.
Would AI 200cc heads and a 230/238 .575 .575 110 lsa be street friendly with some ***** on an m6 bolts on and 3.90?
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Originally Posted by alexcoreas
Why do certain people have green names? Are they the moderators? Its pretty sick. Ill go with some AI heads.
Would AI 200cc heads and a 230/238 .575 .575 110 lsa be street friendly with some ***** on an m6 bolts on and 3.90?
Green names = moderators.

You missed the fact that AI will spec you an included billet grind cam for free when you go with the 200cc package. Obviously they know what they're doing.
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Did not know he did that I thought we had to choose one of his already made cam. Sweet . I just want a brutal street sleeper



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