Have some options, looking for best use of $$
11-25-2010, 10:47 AM
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Have some options, looking for best use of $$ So Im looking to have a fun car for next summer that ISN'T so stock. Car was going to be ls swapped but decided I don't want to waste the money on it anymore and would rather have a fun ltx car.
Mods I have (which most have YET to be put on)
Induction: Edelbrock Air Gap Intake manifold (I got it for almost free, going to give it a shot), 1LE elbow, stock screened MAF, and a Moroso CAI with home made ducting to the filter from the grill)
Exhaust: Hooker LT's with custom ORY with dual cut outs and custom Borla cat back
Drivetrain: Performabuild Stage 2 Trans (which is going to be freshened up), TCI 2800 stall (I want to go a bit bigger), LS1 DS, stock rear (...with 2.73's...)
Brakes: Stock LT1 size, cross drilled and slotted rotors with ceramic pads, SS brake lines
Tires: Hankook Ventus V4ES All seasons (yet to be mounted)
Suspension: BMR Non-Adj LCA's, BMR Adjustable PHB, Brand new Stock rear springs
I want something with a bit more ummpf, BUT I'm not sure if stock parts (ie THE REAR END) will hold. Im looking at going for a cc503, tried and true and more then fun for me (Im hoping), but not sure if I should go for an aftermarket rear. I was hoping to put that money to some new paint as I was keyed a couple times
, but I want to be sure Im not going to lose my rear and be out for the summer cause I spent the money on paint. I want to upgrade my horrible gears anyway, and wanted some stock GM 3.73's as Im reading they hold up best with least amount of noise.
Mods I have (which most have YET to be put on)
Induction: Edelbrock Air Gap Intake manifold (I got it for almost free, going to give it a shot), 1LE elbow, stock screened MAF, and a Moroso CAI with home made ducting to the filter from the grill)
Exhaust: Hooker LT's with custom ORY with dual cut outs and custom Borla cat back
Drivetrain: Performabuild Stage 2 Trans (which is going to be freshened up), TCI 2800 stall (I want to go a bit bigger), LS1 DS, stock rear (...with 2.73's...)
Brakes: Stock LT1 size, cross drilled and slotted rotors with ceramic pads, SS brake lines
Tires: Hankook Ventus V4ES All seasons (yet to be mounted)
Suspension: BMR Non-Adj LCA's, BMR Adjustable PHB, Brand new Stock rear springs
I want something with a bit more ummpf, BUT I'm not sure if stock parts (ie THE REAR END) will hold. Im looking at going for a cc503, tried and true and more then fun for me (Im hoping), but not sure if I should go for an aftermarket rear. I was hoping to put that money to some new paint as I was keyed a couple times
, but I want to be sure Im not going to lose my rear and be out for the summer cause I spent the money on paint. I want to upgrade my horrible gears anyway, and wanted some stock GM 3.73's as Im reading they hold up best with least amount of noise. 
11-25-2010, 11:03 AM
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The stock 10 bolt will last as you have it as an Auto so i wouldnt be worried about blowing it. You will see a real gain alone with just a gear swap from 273 to 373. A cc503 is a great cam and which you can find cheap used on the for sale section. You'll be going in the right direction with the gear and cam swap.
11-25-2010, 11:07 AM
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Yeah I looked around for a while and the cc503 seems to suit me best. I want something that sounds great and performs just as good. I know I'm holding the car back a lot with stock heads but for now it'll have to do. Trying to find a whole description on whats needed for the swap but 10000000000 threads of all the same info sucks!!! I'm gotta do my timing set as well as car has about 123k on it now =( Going to go with a stock set up, think I should replace the gears as well?
11-25-2010, 11:12 AM
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Forgot to mention I have a trans cooler. And a walbro 255.... I want to install a fan on the cooler that I have laying around, just need to get around to doing it
11-25-2010, 11:33 AM
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Does this set fit my car? My car is a 94, but this says 92-93??? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/LU...n/?prefilter=0
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11-27-2010, 05:04 PM
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Here's one article for you http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ttle_body.html for me there's just no point in using it since the stock intake has tons of proven results
11-27-2010, 05:40 PM
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Yes but again, they have NOT been compared properly. However I see your point as me having stock heads that it wouldn't make sense to have the edelbrock but the loss of a couple of horses isn't that big a deal. Im not losing like 20hp and 30fttq on it
11-27-2010, 05:45 PM
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And when you say city I think of Manhattan. Or you talking not the city-city?
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I live in Queens so its not like Manhattan. I currently have a 2800 and love the difference it made but def want to go a bit higher. Just with traffic once in a blue I didnt want a super high stall and driving where it becomes an issue
11-28-2010, 08:54 AM
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That lunati timing chain will work but its not needed a new stocker will be just fine. As for your stall question i dont think its worth the money to upgrade to a 3000 or 3200 if your using a 2800 now for minimal gains. A 503 cam and 2800 should be enough for a street car and have tons of fun with IMO but the extra stall would help but for cost effiveness if yours call.
11-28-2010, 11:41 AM
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from what i hear TCI stalls have horrible driveability, i have a 3500 TCI and i get annoyed. Ived heard people talk about yank 3600's driving alot better. Some stalls offer great driveability despite the higher RPM stall speed. A yank 3200 will probably drive better then your 2800, and also be faster. I Dont know why this is, but ive heard it time and time again.
Im doing the CC503 over the winter as well. Maybe we could be 2 good comparrison cars. I wasnt planning on porting the intake though. and its up in the air on what gears im going to go with, might do a stock 3.42 unit out of another car just for ease of install. Probably stick with the 3.23's for now though. Other then that same crapola, 1.6RR and a new stock timing set, also adding some Long tubes.
Good luck with your install!
Im doing the CC503 over the winter as well. Maybe we could be 2 good comparrison cars. I wasnt planning on porting the intake though. and its up in the air on what gears im going to go with, might do a stock 3.42 unit out of another car just for ease of install. Probably stick with the 3.23's for now though. Other then that same crapola, 1.6RR and a new stock timing set, also adding some Long tubes.
Good luck with your install!
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That lunati timing chain will work but its not needed a new stocker will be just fine. As for your stall question i dont think its worth the money to upgrade to a 3000 or 3200 if your using a 2800 now for minimal gains. A 503 cam and 2800 should be enough for a street car and have tons of fun with IMO but the extra stall would help but for cost effiveness if yours call.
As for the stall I didn't get to drive the car much before the trans went (I let the trans sit over 3 years not knowing it would be an issue with the fuid in it
), and it was my first stalled/performance trans ever and man what a difference it was compared to the stock stall/trans even with the 2.73's. My other Z had 3.23's and I did notice the difference in the shift timing over the two.from what i hear TCI stalls have horrible driveability, i have a 3500 TCI and i get annoyed. Ived heard people talk about yank 3600's driving alot better. Some stalls offer great driveability despite the higher RPM stall speed. A yank 3200 will probably drive better then your 2800, and also be faster. I Dont know why this is, but ive heard it time and time again.
Im doing the CC503 over the winter as well. Maybe we could be 2 good comparrison cars. I wasnt planning on porting the intake though. and its up in the air on what gears im going to go with, might do a stock 3.42 unit out of another car just for ease of install. Probably stick with the 3.23's for now though. Other then that same crapola, 1.6RR and a new stock timing set, also adding some Long tubes.
Good luck with your install!
Im doing the CC503 over the winter as well. Maybe we could be 2 good comparrison cars. I wasnt planning on porting the intake though. and its up in the air on what gears im going to go with, might do a stock 3.42 unit out of another car just for ease of install. Probably stick with the 3.23's for now though. Other then that same crapola, 1.6RR and a new stock timing set, also adding some Long tubes.
Good luck with your install!