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Old 07-27-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default LS1 Airlid Swap -- TRACK RESULTS!!!

A few of you no doubt read the thread about Ele-Blue95's recent swap from a K&N CAI to an LS1-style airlid.

We only got five runs in, then we got rained out. The Density Altitude was abyssmal: 2915 ft.

All runs were performed on street tires due to the threat of rain. Engine coolant temp was controlled at 180-185* with an EWP and manual fan switch. The car was allowed a 15 minute cooldown between intakes.

Here are his runs with the LS1 swap, I'm in the right lane on the middle slip. His Number is 17 or "Blue":





Here are his runs AFTER a cooldown and swapping to the K&N CAI:



You guys tell us what you think. I think that it's a nice little difference that will only increase with a lower DA and a ram air system.
Old 07-27-2007, 10:28 PM
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it put him into the 12's

looks like it isnt worthless afterall. im glad i did it.
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Any gain is better than none i guess
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Looks like it was probably worth 6-8 HP. Nice.
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Hey guys. I tried to make the runs as close as i could. The car spun pretty bad in first and the start of second, with the lid i got third to just break loose. The temps all stayed about the same. Shifted at the same RPM (all runs). Next week I will put the DRs on it and see what it will do. I will do a dyno test in a few weeks. So we will know 100% what the gain is.
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If anyone is wondering Y the times in my sig are better than what im running at the start of the thread. Im running a S60 with true-trak and 3.73 gears and steel drive shaft. VS. the stock 10 bolt with 4.10s and alum driveshaft. Those times are also during the winter vs extremely hot summer.
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the spinning will cause you to run higher mph but lower numbers.

i should be around a 12.9 so youre around a 12.2 with the lid.
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I wrote down the numbers on a paper to make it easier to look at side by side... I also averaged the runs in the two columns on the right. Seeing as how you were spinning alot this probably isn't a great comparison. It doesn't seem like there's a HUGE difference. Looks like you over all gained close to 1 MPH and 1/10 of a second. Would like to see the back to back dyno runs....

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That's some pretty handwriting...

Good gains guys..
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Originally Posted by the_merv
That's some pretty handwriting...
Yeah-yeah-yeeeaahh... thats what I get from writing billions of little notes to chicks back in highschool... plus 6 years in the military where I had to write all caps. Oh well...

Hey merv, dont you have a back to back dyno with and without? I'm curious to see the air fuel difference back to back.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Good gains guys..
Thanks Merv. I know the test would have had better results if the weather had been better. I will try it again next week with DRs and hopefully better air. I will be putting the LID back on today The car just doesnt pull the same up top without it.
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Cool dude, looks like there could be a solid 1 mph difference there. Definitely thinking about doing this now lol

Can I ask, how much were the parts and how long did the install take you?
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That's not a bad gain at all. 1 mph and 1 10th.

While it isn't huge, every little bit helps. It should only get better with tuning, weather and seat time. I'm curious to see how the bigger hp cars respond to this mod.
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Originally Posted by urbanhunter44
Cool dude, looks like there could be a solid 1 mph difference there. Definitely thinking about doing this now lol

Can I ask, how much were the parts and how long did the install take you?
I got all the parts for around $100 BUCKS On ebay. And it took me around 5 hours to do the mod. I still have some work to do on it so it looks cleaner.

I just want everyone to remember that the DA was almost 3000 So there is alot left in this mod with better air.
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I might try this too at some point, but my homemade PVC CAI has been pretty good to me...
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I noticed a big difference in the top-end with it also. I think it even adds more with the setup I have now..
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I noticed a big difference in the top-end with it also. I think it even adds more with the setup I have now..
With your setup now, its got to be working alot better than the old CAI would have. So merv, hows the break in comming along? Cant wait to see want she does at the track and on the dyno.
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Well ANY gain is a gain, but as I suspected it is not a seat of that pants thriller like many said.


Block the heat off the radiator(with sheetmetal) and re-test with the lid. As I stated in the other post, the gains will get much better if this is done.


Super bracket car, make some dollas with that baby.



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I honestly can't believe what I am seeing.
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Originally Posted by burnzilla
I honestly can't believe what I am seeing.
its too good to be true

im glad i did it, but the non hacking way


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