Joining the Army, Need help picking MOS
08-22-2010, 03:44 PM
#1
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 600
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Joining the Army, Need help picking MOS As the title says, I'm getting ready to join the Army. I have been going through some red tape with the recruiters about a possession charge (0.5 grams of marijuana in Feb. 2005 which i didnt even have on me BTW
) that i had expunged. Im hoping that it doesn't disqualify my application/packet.
Besides that I am scheduled to go and take the ASVAB tomorrow and the physical, etc. later on this week. I have taken the ASVAB when I was in high school and got a 94 on it (2001/2ish) for my overall score so I'm not to worried about my score on that. Sadly, I did end up going and taking it again at the beginning of 2008 when I was thinking about joining and only got a 88 on it. I'm pretty sure my drinking the night before didn't help me too much but even still they said that wasnt a bad score.
I majored in Business Administration in College and graduated in the spring of 2009. But im not so sure I want to be an "admin guy" if you know what I mean. I can see that that would be something that I can use outside of the military which is something that I would like to have on my resume. BUT I would also like to enjoy my time in the military. I have always been in very good shape physically btw always scored 100 on PT tests. I dont know what the requirements are now in the army for the pushups/situps/run/pullups but im sure i can handle it.
Special Forces have always been something that I have wanted to do and would like to find a way to incorporate that into this equation some how. I don't know if that is realistic or possible but I would like to do it. Obviously since i have gone to college I would like to go to OCS.
I know I'm asking a lot but some shrewd help in this situation would mean the world to me.
Thanks in advance!
) that i had expunged. Im hoping that it doesn't disqualify my application/packet. Besides that I am scheduled to go and take the ASVAB tomorrow and the physical, etc. later on this week. I have taken the ASVAB when I was in high school and got a 94 on it (2001/2ish) for my overall score so I'm not to worried about my score on that. Sadly, I did end up going and taking it again at the beginning of 2008 when I was thinking about joining and only got a 88 on it. I'm pretty sure my drinking the night before didn't help me too much but even still they said that wasnt a bad score.
I majored in Business Administration in College and graduated in the spring of 2009. But im not so sure I want to be an "admin guy" if you know what I mean. I can see that that would be something that I can use outside of the military which is something that I would like to have on my resume. BUT I would also like to enjoy my time in the military. I have always been in very good shape physically btw always scored 100 on PT tests. I dont know what the requirements are now in the army for the pushups/situps/run/pullups but im sure i can handle it.
Special Forces have always been something that I have wanted to do and would like to find a way to incorporate that into this equation some how. I don't know if that is realistic or possible but I would like to do it. Obviously since i have gone to college I would like to go to OCS.
I know I'm asking a lot but some shrewd help in this situation would mean the world to me.
Thanks in advance!
08-22-2010, 06:23 PM
#4
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 600
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
08-22-2010, 06:34 PM
#5
12 Second Club
iTrader: (23)
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Hampton, VA
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Can try Paralegal, I am 15 years at it now. We go anywhere and can get into the "highspeed" units as well. Ranger, Special Forces, etc.
About the Recruiter, dont let him force you into signing the contract if its not what you want. They may also toss a bonus at you to try to fill a MOS thats short. If you want OCS, then try for it. If you decide to stay enlisted, talk to them about a advance promotion, with your collage, you should be able to get some advancement in rank before you get in. Also, you can always put in for OCS or Green to Gold while your enlisted, I have 2 Soldiers that have been in just over a year and are submitting packets to both.
As for the possesion, if you have it expunged, then it shouldnt count against you in your enlistment.
About the Recruiter, dont let him force you into signing the contract if its not what you want. They may also toss a bonus at you to try to fill a MOS thats short. If you want OCS, then try for it. If you decide to stay enlisted, talk to them about a advance promotion, with your collage, you should be able to get some advancement in rank before you get in. Also, you can always put in for OCS or Green to Gold while your enlisted, I have 2 Soldiers that have been in just over a year and are submitting packets to both.
As for the possesion, if you have it expunged, then it shouldnt count against you in your enlistment.
08-22-2010, 06:46 PM
#6
Don't let the recruiter b/s you. Actually the army is hurting for commissioned officers the last that I heard. If you want to go enlisted, then you can come in as an e4 (Specialist) since you have a BS/A degree. If you do enlist, I know that the MOS 15E that I am doing now is at 45% strength, and I last saw that they were getting pretty hefty bonuses. It is an easy job working on and with UAV's, and it's a cutting edge job with extremely huge potential after the military.
08-22-2010, 07:40 PM
#7
Yea man, I think he is bullshitting you. The Army is looking for good, young officers. My recruiter told me that he wouldn't get credit for me if I signed up since I would be going officer, he was pretty cool about it (maybe it's because a family friend who is an O-7 was the one who forwarded me to him 
). If you don't like what they offer, don't sign. If all else fails, contact a different recruiter and see what they say.
). If you don't like what they offer, don't sign. If all else fails, contact a different recruiter and see what they say. Trending Topics
08-22-2010, 07:42 PM
#8
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 600
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Can try Paralegal, I am 15 years at it now. We go anywhere and can get into the "highspeed" units as well. Ranger, Special Forces, etc.
About the Recruiter, dont let him force you into signing the contract if its not what you want. They may also toss a bonus at you to try to fill a MOS thats short. If you want OCS, then try for it. If you decide to stay enlisted, talk to them about a advance promotion, with your collage, you should be able to get some advancement in rank before you get in. Also, you can always put in for OCS or Green to Gold while your enlisted, I have 2 Soldiers that have been in just over a year and are submitting packets to both.
As for the possesion, if you have it expunged, then it shouldnt count against you in your enlistment.
About the Recruiter, dont let him force you into signing the contract if its not what you want. They may also toss a bonus at you to try to fill a MOS thats short. If you want OCS, then try for it. If you decide to stay enlisted, talk to them about a advance promotion, with your collage, you should be able to get some advancement in rank before you get in. Also, you can always put in for OCS or Green to Gold while your enlisted, I have 2 Soldiers that have been in just over a year and are submitting packets to both.
As for the possesion, if you have it expunged, then it shouldnt count against you in your enlistment.
Don't let the recruiter b/s you. Actually the army is hurting for commissioned officers the last that I heard. If you want to go enlisted, then you can come in as an e4 (Specialist) since you have a BS/A degree. If you do enlist, I know that the MOS 15E that I am doing now is at 45% strength, and I last saw that they were getting pretty hefty bonuses. It is an easy job working on and with UAV's, and it's a cutting edge job with extremely huge potential after the military.
So I would appreciate your opinions on these:
15Q - Air Traffic Control
15W - UAV Operator
25S - Sat. Com.
29E - Electronic Warfare
35 - Intelligence .. hell damn near all of them, just about anyone of them would be cool with me
37F - Psychological Ops.
I'm sure you can kinda sorta get an idea of what im into here as these all seem to have some kind of use outside of the military, as well as in it. What would the advantages/disadvantages be of going enlisted and picking one of these and then going green to gold and then maybe special forces? Is there anything I'm missing? Please let me know! I appreciate the help so far guys! please keep it coming!
08-22-2010, 07:53 PM
#9
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 600
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I guess it would be kind of obvious if they allow me to go to OCS then its kinda case closed if I dont have to pick my own job. But, if my job is boring that is picked, there is no doubt I will go through the selection process or whatever it is I have to do for Rangers/Green Beret or whatever the order is with that as many times as I have to to make it.
08-22-2010, 09:21 PM
#10
12 Second Club
iTrader: (23)
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Hampton, VA
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Another option is submitting a Warrant packet after you enlist. Or if your vision is good, and you meet the criteria, you can also try for flight warrant.
Me, I am partial to the Enlisted Corps. I am NCO and love dealing with and mentoring the troops. The saying is the back bone of the Army is the NCO Corps, so IMO I say enlist, but it’s a hard, though, and sometimes unrewarding road, but seeing that Soldier you trained succeed and gain in the ranks is the reward I love. The officers are not the ones who get to do that, they do help the other officers, but it’s the NCOs that make it happen and train the troops. Not sure if you have ever seen this, but read this...
THE NCO CREED!
No one is more professional than I. I am a Noncommissioned Officer, a leader of soldiers. As a Noncommissioned Officer, I realize that I am a member of a time honored corps, which is known as "The Backbone of the Army". I am proud of the Corps of Noncommissioned Officers and will at all times conduct myself so as to bring credit upon the Corps, the Military Service and my country regardless of the situation in which I find myself. I will not use my grade or position to attain pleasure, profit, or personal safety.
Competence is my watchword. My two basic responsibilities will always be uppermost in my mind -- accomplishment of my mission and the welfare of my soldiers. I will strive to remain technically and tactically proficient. I am aware of my role as a Noncommissioned Officer. I will fulfill my responsibilities inherent in that role. All soldiers are entitled to outstanding leadership; I will provide that leadership. I know my soldiers and I will always place their needs above my own. I will communicate consistently with my soldiers and never leave them uninformed. I will be fair and impartial when recommending both rewards and punishment.
Officers of my unit will have maximum time to accomplish their duties; they will not have to accomplish mine. I will earn their respect and confidence as well as that of my soldiers. I will be loyal to those with whom I serve; seniors, peers, and subordinates alike. I will exercise initiative by taking appropriate action in the absence of orders. I will not compromise my integrity, nor my moral courage. I will not forget, nor will I allow my comrades to forget that we are professionals, Noncommissioned Officers, leaders!
Me, I am partial to the Enlisted Corps. I am NCO and love dealing with and mentoring the troops. The saying is the back bone of the Army is the NCO Corps, so IMO I say enlist, but it’s a hard, though, and sometimes unrewarding road, but seeing that Soldier you trained succeed and gain in the ranks is the reward I love. The officers are not the ones who get to do that, they do help the other officers, but it’s the NCOs that make it happen and train the troops. Not sure if you have ever seen this, but read this...
THE NCO CREED!
No one is more professional than I. I am a Noncommissioned Officer, a leader of soldiers. As a Noncommissioned Officer, I realize that I am a member of a time honored corps, which is known as "The Backbone of the Army". I am proud of the Corps of Noncommissioned Officers and will at all times conduct myself so as to bring credit upon the Corps, the Military Service and my country regardless of the situation in which I find myself. I will not use my grade or position to attain pleasure, profit, or personal safety.
Competence is my watchword. My two basic responsibilities will always be uppermost in my mind -- accomplishment of my mission and the welfare of my soldiers. I will strive to remain technically and tactically proficient. I am aware of my role as a Noncommissioned Officer. I will fulfill my responsibilities inherent in that role. All soldiers are entitled to outstanding leadership; I will provide that leadership. I know my soldiers and I will always place their needs above my own. I will communicate consistently with my soldiers and never leave them uninformed. I will be fair and impartial when recommending both rewards and punishment.
Officers of my unit will have maximum time to accomplish their duties; they will not have to accomplish mine. I will earn their respect and confidence as well as that of my soldiers. I will be loyal to those with whom I serve; seniors, peers, and subordinates alike. I will exercise initiative by taking appropriate action in the absence of orders. I will not compromise my integrity, nor my moral courage. I will not forget, nor will I allow my comrades to forget that we are professionals, Noncommissioned Officers, leaders!
08-23-2010, 06:43 PM
#11
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 600
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well guys I was told today by the recruiter that they are not accepting any packets right now that need waivers. Mine apparently needs one because of the possession charge. The recruiter told me i may have a better chance in October. I dont reall understand why. This blows.
08-23-2010, 08:51 PM
#12
12 Second Club
iTrader: (23)
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Hampton, VA
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Does blow, dosent sound right, shouldnt need a waiver for something that has been expounged.
Welp, just got done talking with one of the NCOs that just got off the recuriter trail, yea, seems big Army wont let anyone in that has been charged either way and needing a waiver. With it being exponged off, it still will show when anyone does a search in the system on you. Now if they had dismissed the charges, then things would be better for you. Still sucks.
Welp, just got done talking with one of the NCOs that just got off the recuriter trail, yea, seems big Army wont let anyone in that has been charged either way and needing a waiver. With it being exponged off, it still will show when anyone does a search in the system on you. Now if they had dismissed the charges, then things would be better for you. Still sucks.
08-24-2010, 07:34 PM
#15
TECH Regular
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Orlaanndoooo
Posts: 475
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
FWIW I work with a bunch of 25S ppl, and have to step into their shoes regularly. Can be a fun gig when you are actually doing your job...which is normally deployments. Looong AIT and lots to keep track of. Great if you get into a JNN or UHN and are the type of person who likes to have a lot of stuff going on at once.
08-24-2010, 10:25 PM
#17
On The Tree
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If you decide to join as enlisted, and want to go SOF, just cut the crap and go 11b/19d. Your chances of even going to selection as a pog are slim to begin with, nevermind actually being selected. Unless you know you really are that damn good.
Plus, how old are you? Can't remember now, but there is a definant age limit to get into SF, again unless they really like you.
Plus, how old are you? Can't remember now, but there is a definant age limit to get into SF, again unless they really like you.
08-25-2010, 04:01 AM
#19
if you have ANY interest in aviation, I would highly suggest you follow it... no matter which job you choose, it will have a good job in the civilian world. If you are a helicopter crew chief, then you can get your FAA A&P licence to work on any aircraft in the US.
As for the job 15W, it is ok... except you have to sit in this box the entire time you "fly" the UAV.... which isnt much more than clicking a point on the map and telling it how fast to get there and at what altitude. the most action you will have with that job is controlling the camera to watch targets and if you happen to work on one of the armed UAV's, you can fire munitions. this is the GCS (Ground Control Station) that you fly from..
these are the UAV's we work with... (15E)
As for the job 15W, it is ok... except you have to sit in this box the entire time you "fly" the UAV.... which isnt much more than clicking a point on the map and telling it how fast to get there and at what altitude. the most action you will have with that job is controlling the camera to watch targets and if you happen to work on one of the armed UAV's, you can fire munitions. this is the GCS (Ground Control Station) that you fly from..
these are the UAV's we work with... (15E)
