thinking about going dual stage on my 408
05-25-2009, 02:50 PM
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thinking about going dual stage on my 408 ok so full forged 408(m6-9IN) and on 200 dry pills made 673/742.... 150 pills made 632/669.... i want to keep the small kit on there mabye even drop it to a 100 wheel shot.. then put on a 2nd stage wet pilled at 200 wheel..... BUT should i go direct port or plate... i plan on using 1st kit in 1st gear... then both in 2nd-4th... so what do yall think... plate or save up and go direct port..? also not a daily driven car..
05-25-2009, 05:22 PM
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Im thinking of doing the same thing 2 stages but I want it to total up to 200 shot after that you really should go direct port or your risking #7 burning up
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i would love to do that BUT its another grand on top of the nitrous... soooo i would be out more money...... i love the power it makes right now BUT just want more for the track and people talkin ****... i guess if i go direct port i will go with the money maker.. if not i will get a harris speed plate..
05-28-2009, 10:09 AM
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300 is a alot of dope through the front of the intake. There is no doubt a directport would be the best option. But I am not so sure I would put that amount of money in a LS6 intake. We have many customers spraying 300 through our plate. If it were me I would ditch the dry kit and go to our dual stage wet plate kit and watch her fly...
If going this route when you get up around that 250 mark you need to read the plugs to see if you have a plug burning differently than the others. On most of the cars I have tuned we were fine but every motor flows differently.
Dave
If going this route when you get up around that 250 mark you need to read the plugs to see if you have a plug burning differently than the others. On most of the cars I have tuned we were fine but every motor flows differently.
Dave
05-28-2009, 03:58 PM
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If I was to go the level you want through the neck, I would certainly stay dry as this will keep the fuel drop out out of the equation. You could add the HSW dry plate kit into the mix which is good for dual staging. Anyway, i do agree on going multi stage, what i have done with my 408 is Dry DP as a stage, and a dry plate for two more stages. All is fueled by the cars fuel tank and injectors via the PCM and Interface. So many combos to choose from, your making nice power and tq with your current dry set-up why not just split it up into two stages? the dry DP is much cheaper to plumb and set-up and tune compared to the wet DP. The other thing to point out, I have mine set to be able to use any set-up as any stge, so the DP can be stage 3, or stage 2 or stage 1 and same with other two stages.
Robert
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05-28-2009, 04:06 PM
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If I was to go the level you want through the neck, I would certainly stay dry as this will keep the fuel drop out out of the equation. You could add the HSW dry plate kit into the mix which is good for dual staging. Anyway, i do agree on going multi stage, what i have done with my 408 is Dry DP as a stage, and a dry plate for two more stages. All is fueled by the cars fuel tank and injectors via the PCM and Interface. So many combos to choose from, your making nice power and tq with your current dry set-up why not just split it up into two stages? the dry DP is much cheaper to plumb and set-up and tune compared to the wet DP. The other thing to point out, I have mine set to be able to use any set-up as any stge, so the DP can be stage 3, or stage 2 or stage 1 and same with other two stages.
Robert
Robert
Fuel Drop Out is a myth... Vinnys video should have finnaly opened your eyes to that...
A little common since will also clue you into the fact that the mixture is sucked through that intake plenum so fast nothing is puddling anywhere unless your tune up is crazy rich...Now distribution flow evenly to each cylinder may be another story. Reading the plugs will tell you at what point you have reached the wall with your intake design.
Ill stick to building fast cars... with wet kits..
Dave
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05-28-2009, 04:25 PM
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Dave again, fuel drop out is a known issue with the lsx paltform. I have sighted published text numerous times, all of the real n2o companies realize this a concern. Bottom line, you are still the only one on the internet to still try and claim this doesn't happen; Remember, knowledge is power, lol. If you would like, I will once agin sight the published text from authors well known in the business and qoutes from companies such as NOS. By the nway, building fast cars has nothing to do with fuel drop as it (wet hits) can still get the job done, but doesn't void out the facts of the matter.
Robert
Robert
05-28-2009, 05:20 PM
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Dave again, fuel drop out is a known issue with the lsx paltform. I have sighted published text numerous times, all of the real n2o companies realize this a concern. Bottom line, you are still the only one on the internet to still try and claim this doesn't happen; Remember, knowledge is power, lol. If you would like, I will once agin sight the published text from authors well known in the business and qoutes from companies such as NOS. By the nway, building fast cars has nothing to do with fuel drop as it (wet hits) can still get the job done, but doesn't void out the facts of the matter.
Robert
Robert
Dave.
05-29-2009, 01:00 AM
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I dont care who says what. I see dated or wrong information published all the time. Does not mean anything to me and it does not mean its right. The fuel puddling issue was an original problem with a crappy designed nozzle from NOS. Yes back then fuel was never atomized properly out of the bath tub of the nozzle. So yes fuel drop out happened. With todays technonlogy and the right tune up its not going to happen. Plain and simple. I know my ****.
Dave.
Dave.
By the way, since you mentioned Vinny's video, is that the car he had problems with? just asking, as I never saw the video? or is that the video that was out there with the intake not even installed on the car and free spraying thru it?
Robert
EDIT:For those of you reading along, check my posts from the last month or so. You will se that every single time I give any info what so ever, Dave will come along and try to invalidate said input, lol. So let the reader decide whom knows what and what is really going on here, lol. will make for some good reading anyway, lol. Seems someone wants this site as a one man show, lol.
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