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Old 04-19-2006, 05:57 AM
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In My H\c Trans-am I Did A Fast 90 Setup Now My Car Is Alot More Prone To Stalling And Surging

What Tables Do I Need To Adjust In Hp Tuners To Fix This Problem ??
Old 04-19-2006, 06:08 AM
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RAF, do a search, same question gets asked every day.
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Raf? Also I Search For "fast 90" In The Pcm Forum And Couldent Find Anything Relevent..
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Did you install a FAST 90 TB too? If so, is there a hole in the TB blade? If not, you need one in there....
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I'm having the same problem, can someone kinda walk me through changing out the raf tables so I can get my car running right? I'm new to HPtuners and have limited knowledge thus far.
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Yea Me Too! And Yes I Drilled The Tb Blade
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RAF = Running AirFlow

Do you have a wideband? If so you can use the
MAF -AFR Error % histogram

This'll give you an error % and let you modify your RAF
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No wideband here and its a 98. I also have drilled a hole in my Fast 90mm TB.
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I believe the problem comes from the idle airflow vs
IAC counts, this is what has been changed as far as
idle airflow loop is concerned. People just shift the
data left or right but I think really you want to look
at the size of the passage as well, and the diameter
of the IAC plunger seating circle, and see whether
you also need to scale values.

The running airflow on that car should be no different
across a manifold/TB swap. But changes to how much
air a perturbation to the IAC position makes, is likely
changed. There have been some discussions about that
which you should be able to chase down, though in my
recollection they stopped kind of short, of a solid recipe.
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the only thing tsp changed was base air flow .. i drilled the blade hole a few sizes bigger this morinng as advised and now all is good .. car idles well and runs pretty well now and ten it still catches it self but no stalls
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How big is the hole you drilled? My IAC counts were great after adjusting the set screw and I wanna make sure that its not just the TB itself because mine only does it on warm startups.
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Not unless they fixed them, the Fast 90 TB is junk. Do a search, there has been countless threads talking about idle issues with them. A return spring helps, but I think it boils down to it being a bad design from the get-go.
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Yeah I wouldn't have bought the TB by choice but it came with the intake and for too good of a price so I'm working with what I have really. I'll look into installing a return spring and see if that helps any.
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i have a ptm TB from texas speed i didnt wanna do the set screw thing because i didnt like the idea of never having a tps of 0%



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