98 engine with 99+ wire harness this ? needs to be answered once and for all lol
#1
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
98 engine with 99+ wire harness this ? needs to be answered once and for all lol
alright guys ive searched for hours and have not found an exact conclusive answer
i have a 98 motor with 98 sensors i need to use a 99 harness and computer so i can do a 3 bar tune for my FI application
i know a 98 won't work with a 99 pcm thats not the question the question is what needs to be changed as far as sensors or whatever on the 98 engine to have a 99 harness and pcm work. my intution would say that nothing really has to be changed but people keep saying all different things
also this is going to be a stand alone harnes i don't care about the guage cluster i gotta use all aftermarket guages anyways and guages are overrated anyways lol j/k
i have a 98 motor with 98 sensors i need to use a 99 harness and computer so i can do a 3 bar tune for my FI application
i know a 98 won't work with a 99 pcm thats not the question the question is what needs to be changed as far as sensors or whatever on the 98 engine to have a 99 harness and pcm work. my intution would say that nothing really has to be changed but people keep saying all different things
also this is going to be a stand alone harnes i don't care about the guage cluster i gotta use all aftermarket guages anyways and guages are overrated anyways lol j/k
#2
10 Second Club
iTrader: (15)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: St. Michael, MN.
Posts: 4,519
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Here is what I know needs to be changed:
1) Oil Pressure sending unit (98 has 3-prong connector, 99-up 2)
2) Engine coolant temp Sensor (98 has 3-prong, 99-up 2)
3) You will have to use a 99-up fuel pump assembly.
But I would contact Speartech. They are experts in harness and wiring conversions. I would also check in the conversion and hybrid section here.
1) Oil Pressure sending unit (98 has 3-prong connector, 99-up 2)
2) Engine coolant temp Sensor (98 has 3-prong, 99-up 2)
3) You will have to use a 99-up fuel pump assembly.
But I would contact Speartech. They are experts in harness and wiring conversions. I would also check in the conversion and hybrid section here.
#4
TECH Resident
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Richmond, VA Where fast cars, well......are hard to come by.
Posts: 979
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Knock sensors were chanded at some point, but I'm not sure if the new one replaced the original 98 part number or not. You can use the newer ones on 98s, so you should be able to use the 98 sensor with a later harness, however the newer sensor is obviously better than the originals. And 98's had a lot of false knock issues.
Trending Topics
#8
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by DrkPhx
Here is what I know needs to be changed:
1) Oil Pressure sending unit (98 has 3-prong connector, 99-up 2)
2) Engine coolant temp Sensor (98 has 3-prong, 99-up 2)
3) You will have to use a 99-up fuel pump assembly.
But I would contact Speartech. They are experts in harness and wiring conversions. I would also check in the conversion and hybrid section here.
1) Oil Pressure sending unit (98 has 3-prong connector, 99-up 2)
2) Engine coolant temp Sensor (98 has 3-prong, 99-up 2)
3) You will have to use a 99-up fuel pump assembly.
But I would contact Speartech. They are experts in harness and wiring conversions. I would also check in the conversion and hybrid section here.
#10
10 Second Club
iTrader: (15)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: St. Michael, MN.
Posts: 4,519
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by zapp168
When you say 99+ fuel pump assembly, do you mean rewire the fuel pump? or replace the entire unit?
#11
10 Second Club
iTrader: (15)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: St. Michael, MN.
Posts: 4,519
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by 383ls1blazer
that is the oil pressure sensor right? if i get aftermarket guages they will come with those sensors right the oil pressure sensor and a water temp guage will come with that sensor right?
#12
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
iTrader: (8)
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
this is definetly not a typical s10 ls1 conversion its a turbo motor that i plan on running up to 22-25 psi so i have to have many additional aftermarket guages and other eltronic components.
i will probably be to get an aftermarket oil psi guage does that come with its own sensor. i was under the impression that the aftermarket guages and such come with their own sensors. (forgive me i just started researching out all the eletronic stuff and im in a bit of a rush lol so please forgive any stupid ?'s of mine lol)
so are these (the oil psi sensor, water temp sensor, ...) the only ones that are different i read something about an ect sensor?
and as far as the fuel im running parralel bosch 420L's each on a -8an line so no need for the 99+ fuel assembly ))
i will probably be to get an aftermarket oil psi guage does that come with its own sensor. i was under the impression that the aftermarket guages and such come with their own sensors. (forgive me i just started researching out all the eletronic stuff and im in a bit of a rush lol so please forgive any stupid ?'s of mine lol)
so are these (the oil psi sensor, water temp sensor, ...) the only ones that are different i read something about an ect sensor?
and as far as the fuel im running parralel bosch 420L's each on a -8an line so no need for the 99+ fuel assembly ))
#13
9 Second Club/LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (14)
Yes, the oil pressure sending unit and the coolant temp sensor are the only things different if you are using a 99-up harness on a 98 engine. The ect is the same sensor (Engine Coolant Temp).
The 98 had a 2 terminal oil press. sending unit (the newer ones are 1 terminal).
The 98 had a 3 terminal coolant temp sensor (the newer ones are 2 terminal).
Change those two and evreything on a newer F-body harness will plug in.
01 and 02 F-body harnesses won't have a plug for EGR, but most people get rid of it anyway.
The 98 had a 2 terminal oil press. sending unit (the newer ones are 1 terminal).
The 98 had a 3 terminal coolant temp sensor (the newer ones are 2 terminal).
Change those two and evreything on a newer F-body harness will plug in.
01 and 02 F-body harnesses won't have a plug for EGR, but most people get rid of it anyway.
__________________
91 Z28 LS2 408CI, LS9 Supercharger, LPE GT7 cam, Yank3000, 3450 raceweight.
Latest numbers: 9.71 ET, 141.42 MPH, 1.40 60' , 610 RWHP Mustang Dyno
www.speartech.com
91 Z28 LS2 408CI, LS9 Supercharger, LPE GT7 cam, Yank3000, 3450 raceweight.
Latest numbers: 9.71 ET, 141.42 MPH, 1.40 60' , 610 RWHP Mustang Dyno
www.speartech.com
#15
TECH Addict
iTrader: (8)
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The beautiful Kingdom of Bahrain
Posts: 2,401
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Speartech
Yes, the oil pressure sending unit and the coolant temp sensor are the only things different if you are using a 99-up harness on a 98 engine. The ect is the same sensor (Engine Coolant Temp).
The 98 had a 2 terminal oil press. sending unit (the newer ones are 1 terminal).
The 98 had a 3 terminal coolant temp sensor (the newer ones are 2 terminal).
Change those two and evreything on a newer F-body harness will plug in.
01 and 02 F-body harnesses won't have a plug for EGR, but most people get rid of it anyway.
The 98 had a 2 terminal oil press. sending unit (the newer ones are 1 terminal).
The 98 had a 3 terminal coolant temp sensor (the newer ones are 2 terminal).
Change those two and evreything on a newer F-body harness will plug in.
01 and 02 F-body harnesses won't have a plug for EGR, but most people get rid of it anyway.
#16
9 Second Club/LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (14)
It would be an issue if you were trying to do this on a 98 F-body, but for a stand alone engine swap like what he (original poster) is talking about it's not an issue.
__________________
91 Z28 LS2 408CI, LS9 Supercharger, LPE GT7 cam, Yank3000, 3450 raceweight.
Latest numbers: 9.71 ET, 141.42 MPH, 1.40 60' , 610 RWHP Mustang Dyno
www.speartech.com
91 Z28 LS2 408CI, LS9 Supercharger, LPE GT7 cam, Yank3000, 3450 raceweight.
Latest numbers: 9.71 ET, 141.42 MPH, 1.40 60' , 610 RWHP Mustang Dyno
www.speartech.com
#18
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 572
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Speartech
Yes, the oil pressure sending unit and the coolant temp sensor are the only things different if you are using a 99-up harness on a 98 engine. The ect is the same sensor (Engine Coolant Temp).
What about the injectors ? I thought you had to swap those also....