blake_colvin

I am looking into getting back into an ls car after many years. The car I am looking at is a 99 formula A4 with a custom grind cam and no aftermarket converter. The guy says the last owner refreshed the engine during the cam swap and never bothered to do a stall.

The closest cam I can find to this one is a tsp220 although idk much about reading a cam card. So im looking for help. Just let me know what im getting ino before I make a bad decision.

What is this cam all about (power wise) and what stall would suit it best and how should it perform with the stock converter?

Heres the Craigslist ad for the car.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/5742340054.html

Here is the cam card.

pozesd99'

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221/226 .566/.561 114lsa
Should have great low and mid range. Stall might not be required... Peak number s will probably be low

stockA4

That's a 221/226 114+3

That's a nice little cam. So long as the car has been tuned properly and has a free flowing intake and long tube headers to compliment the added duration and overlap it should drive just fine although that's about as large a cam as you would want to run with the stock converter.

blake_colvin

Nice. Thanks for the comments. Guy said the car ran and idled good. Also said it should make around 380whp. I ran a tsp228 on a 150ish shot and it did okay. Is this one of those small cam good track timea cams of the old days and is this good for a 3200 stall and a small shot or is it ideal n/a only with a big stall?

stockA4

Peak numbers are useless. That cam will make great average power from idle to 6300+ which is way more useful on a stock stalled street driven car. I've gone 12.1@115 full weight in 90 degree weather at 1800 DA with a smaller cam than that and a stock converter, managing only 1.85 60ft times.
It really just depends on what you want out of the combo.

pozesd99'

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Believe me i know. Wasnt denying that

blake_colvin

Awesome to hear man
I actually just found thats a scoggin dicky z+221 cam. A revised version of their 224 cam. They say it doesn't require a higher stall. Not many people running this cam online so theres no track times or dyno results. I suppose I will move forward with checking out this formula.

But if i were to add a stall what would you be most likely to run?

HCI2000SS

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Regardless of the cam a stall is going to help quite a bit. How much will be determined by how well you hook

kinglt-1

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Stock cam, mild cam, donkey ******* cam....a quality stall converter is a good investment for a A4 period.

Aaron at SDPC

This camshaft will offer nice drivability and good average power in your application. While it would work with the stock torque converter, I strongly recommend upgrading to something a little looser. An aftermarket torque converter is one of the best modifications you can do to an automatic equipped vehicle for performance.

stockA4

If it were me I would dyno the car as is on a good eddy current dyno with the stock converter locked from the lowest rpm possible and then go from there. You want to get an accurate look at your tourqe curve before you change anything.

kinglt-1

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This is 2016...not really much need in doing that. The LS1 has been dyno'd about 2 million times in stock or modified form. Its a proven fact that a quality stall in the 3200-4000rpm range is one of the best mods you can do for a A4.

farmington

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first thing I would do is get rid of the ls6 springs with that camshaft.

stockA4

This thread is getting old already and you don't even own the car lol. 4th gen f-bods are getting harder to find in reasonable shape at reasonable prices, at least where I live anyways. That being said I think you should go check out the car and If you like everything else and the rest of the car meets your criteria aside from the camshaft and your willing to make changes to the car anyways then you should buy it. if you do get the car please post pics and track times or dyno results before you change anything!

I'm not going to chime on what converter to run unless you buy the car though!

blake_colvin

I know Im asking questions so I dont know it all but I do understand a quality converter is a must. I also understand this cam is a low-mid range grind. Im asking what stall because Idk if a 3200 would put this cam in its primary range or a 3600 or higher would be better or if to high would push the car out of its power band when launching. Im not super concerned with driveability although I understand 3200 will quickly feel like stock anyway.
The only setups I can find running this small of a cam (tsp220) is truck guys and there running 3200 stalls.