Stock for Stock. 1999 Camaro SS vs. 2003 Mach 1 (and a surprise)
07-03-2007, 08:31 PM
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Stock for Stock. 1999 Camaro SS vs. 2003 Mach 1 (and a surprise) Welp, I finally got that race in that I was talking about a while ago. Interesting story leads up to it though.
I am at home seafoaming my car (thanks ChocoTaco!). When my friend pulls up in his 03 Mach 1. He decides to stick around and help me a bit with the cleaning process. After we finish, we go out to take my car for its "spirited" run. The smoke was freaking awesome. So we take it down the interstate from one exit to the next, and I decide to let my friend drive my car for a little bit because he wanted to try out the ls1. Low and behold, as soon as he gets behind the wheel, a SN-95 Cobra pulls up (we are on a two lane highway leading back into our town). He looks over at me and ask me if I am cool with it. I give him the O.K., knowing that the first street race in my car isnt going to be done by me
. Anyway, it pulls like a bat out of hell on the Cobra. I know it had at least exhaust, but I honestly feel like it could have been a GT, with a complete Cobra switch the way that my car pulled.
After this, we are both a bit excited (giving all the praise to the seafoam). He decided that he wanted to see what the Mach 1 would do against the SS. After me riding in the passenger side of his car, him riding in mine, and him driving mine, we both felt that it would be extremely close.
The Cars
1999 Camaro SS
-Mods-Whisper Lid, K&N filter
2003 Mustang Mach 1
-Mods-Midpipe, Flowmaster Exhaust
-Race 1- 10 MPH-Top of second
He pulled about a half to 3/4's of a car on me out of the hole. We held steady right there until I went to shift into 3rd and missed.
-Race 2- 45-top of second
This race was as even as even can get. Seriously, until he missed 3rd, there was no movement either way.
-Race 3- 40-110
This race was also extremely close. He was at my door when we let off.
-Summary
When we pulled over to talk about the results, both of us were a little surprised. We both honestly thought the other one would pull. My honest observation is that the ls1 top end isnt significantly greater than the Mach's (at least at 110 or quartermile area), and the Mach 1's bottom end isnt that much greater than the SS. We are going to do this again later on this week, and I will have another story to tell. I am just sad that the first real kill in my car came without me behind the wheel...............
Mach 1 vs. LS1=Driver's Race. Who would have thought it?
I am at home seafoaming my car (thanks ChocoTaco!). When my friend pulls up in his 03 Mach 1. He decides to stick around and help me a bit with the cleaning process. After we finish, we go out to take my car for its "spirited" run. The smoke was freaking awesome. So we take it down the interstate from one exit to the next, and I decide to let my friend drive my car for a little bit because he wanted to try out the ls1. Low and behold, as soon as he gets behind the wheel, a SN-95 Cobra pulls up (we are on a two lane highway leading back into our town). He looks over at me and ask me if I am cool with it. I give him the O.K., knowing that the first street race in my car isnt going to be done by me
. Anyway, it pulls like a bat out of hell on the Cobra. I know it had at least exhaust, but I honestly feel like it could have been a GT, with a complete Cobra switch the way that my car pulled.After this, we are both a bit excited (giving all the praise to the seafoam). He decided that he wanted to see what the Mach 1 would do against the SS. After me riding in the passenger side of his car, him riding in mine, and him driving mine, we both felt that it would be extremely close.
The Cars
1999 Camaro SS
-Mods-Whisper Lid, K&N filter
2003 Mustang Mach 1
-Mods-Midpipe, Flowmaster Exhaust
-Race 1- 10 MPH-Top of second
He pulled about a half to 3/4's of a car on me out of the hole. We held steady right there until I went to shift into 3rd and missed.
-Race 2- 45-top of second
This race was as even as even can get. Seriously, until he missed 3rd, there was no movement either way.
-Race 3- 40-110
This race was also extremely close. He was at my door when we let off.
-Summary
When we pulled over to talk about the results, both of us were a little surprised. We both honestly thought the other one would pull. My honest observation is that the ls1 top end isnt significantly greater than the Mach's (at least at 110 or quartermile area), and the Mach 1's bottom end isnt that much greater than the SS. We are going to do this again later on this week, and I will have another story to tell. I am just sad that the first real kill in my car came without me behind the wheel...............
Mach 1 vs. LS1=Driver's Race. Who would have thought it?
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07-03-2007, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mbrownin
Actually, a lot of people. 
Good kill. I believe it totally because I had a similair experiance with a Mach in my lid/exhaust car.
07-03-2007, 09:39 PM
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Not an unusual outcome. Those mach 1's are definetely a driver's race vs. an ls1 stock for stock. They move out quite well. Now throw that exhaust on there and let it rip. Some people on this board are so in love with their cars that they think it is untouchable. The smart ones, the majority, know that it can be beat. That's why you have mods. I just picked my newest mod up recently and can't wait to hear her whine.
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Good Runs. I think his mods help his car more than the lid/filter helps your car. With the additon of the catback you should pull in front.
I think most people on this site know that a mach vs ls1 is a drivers race.
I think most people on this site know that a mach vs ls1 is a drivers race.
07-04-2007, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
Good Runs. I think his mods help his car more than the lid/filter helps your car. With the additon of the catback you should pull in front.
I think most people on this site know that a mach vs ls1 is a drivers race.
I think most people on this site know that a mach vs ls1 is a drivers race.
07-04-2007, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
Get exhaust and murder him.
I hardly doubt an even race would be changed to a "murder" with just the addition of a cat-back..? Unless you meant full exhaust?
07-04-2007, 08:53 AM
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Nice runs. Mach 1s will run pretty much dead even with a stock LS1 up to around 100mph or so (like your race).
If you would have gone up to 120-130mph, you would have pulled a few cars on him (based on the race I saw between a lid only Z28 and catback, CAI Mach 1).
If you would have gone up to 120-130mph, you would have pulled a few cars on him (based on the race I saw between a lid only Z28 and catback, CAI Mach 1).
07-04-2007, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 95N20FORMULA
i want to see both race in actual "BONE STOCK" form and i mean down the the paper filter
1320'.....both in excellenct conditionBoth manual
Drivers switching and running both cars multiple times.
07-04-2007, 09:45 AM
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im about to get a stock ls1 hopefully in the next week or two, and i mean literally bone stock except 19" C6 vette wheels(which will be sold for some future mods and regular 2s6 wheels first) but anywayz before i mod it i will find a stock mach to run a few times...