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Old 11-22-2010, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Your car is quite a bit different than his.
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Gotcha, he'd prob have a hard time being exhaust only and auto. If his mods in his sig are accurate.
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Originally Posted by VandykeT/A
Yea i've been on the track before but its pretty shameful lol. I ran a 14.00. I had just put my MGW in and when i did i used a ws6store short stick and i still had my stock master. I made 3 runs everytime i missed 4th gear. I don't know if it was my nerves because i'd never been to a track or what. It felt like it was locking me out of 4th but i dunno. After that i came straight home and ordered a tick and put the MGW handle back on and I haven't missed 4th but maybe once since then. So i guess whatever it was i fixed and i also had a 2.5 60 foot time it spint all the way through 1st and 2nd the track sucked. and im running sumitomo tires. The highest i trapped was 99. It was more or less coasting across the finish line. Whenever i would miss it i had to fight it back in.
well, if you both suck equally at driving then you will still win. In the end, your car is faster... If he can out drive you(from a dig he will murder you with those track times) you better go from a 40 or 50 kick... His car is probably low 13 capable just as it sits with a good driver, so expect it to be fairly quick anyway
Old 11-23-2010, 12:31 PM
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I've got the shifting down now. I think something was wrong because I never missed any of em but 4th and it was like it locked me out. But pretty much any speed 1st and most of 2nd it'll break loose. but this is his first sports car and hes only had it maybe a month so he probably can't drive it very well.
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My brother has the same problem. He will bang 2nd gear, then 3rd is pretty notchy to get into, then he is locked out of 4th. We replaced his master cylinder, slave, then did the drill mod and nothing helps. We are going to replace his stock clutch with an LS7 clutch kit in a few weeks and see if the centrifugal force is keeping the pressure plate fingers from releasing.
Old 11-23-2010, 12:47 PM
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i think its the heat generated by the slipping clutch going to the PP fingers. the heated fingers will flex more than usual. this is my theory, please stop me if this sounds stupid, i cant think its anything else.
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There are a lot of theories but the important thing is to realize it is the pressure plate in a lot of cases. People will buy the $300 Tick master, buy a new slave and they are still locked out of fourth. I've read threads where a heavier duty pressure plate solved the problem. Pressure plates do push the clutch and prevent it from slipping but if the fingers are weak it could having trouble releasing the assembly.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
Ive seen many places stating a 4th gen fbody weighs 3400lbs. A loaded 2011 GT is 3780. SO yea 380lbs sorry.
Well my friend had his at a weigh station and it was 36xx lbs. His was a bone stock 2011 5.0 6 speed. I wanna say it was 3670lbs or close to it. Why would he lie ?

I can ask him again to get the exact numbers if you'd like.
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thats about the weight of the heaviest of stock 4gen fbodys
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Fwiw, the lighter 1SC optioned F-bodies weigh in a tad under 3400lbs.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
If a cammed/4.10 geared LS1 cant outrun a stock 5.0 Mustang I would drive the F-body off a cliff.
So when will you be getting a ls1? lol jk had to do it.
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Originally Posted by brians91formula
Well my friend had his at a weigh station and it was 36xx lbs. His was a bone stock 2011 5.0 6 speed. I wanna say it was 3670lbs or close to it. Why would he lie ?

I can ask him again to get the exact numbers if you'd like.
IIRC interventions was a more base model Gt with the gear option correct? That would explain why it was a little lighter, most fully loaded/optioned ot gt's will be more around 3800 i would guess
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the clutch is a ram powergrip hd, pressure plate came with it, i also bought a new ram slave cylinder and flywheel. It all hasn't got 15000 miles on it and i don't really run it hard very often. I've always thought it didn't shift as smooth as it should. I can bang the hell out of em in my 84 mustang but the t/a seems like its more notchy i guess you could say. Its got syncromesh in it now im thinking about going back to Dex III and seeing if that makes it smoother.
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Originally Posted by VandykeT/A
the clutch is a ram powergrip hd, pressure plate came with it, i also bought a new ram slave cylinder and flywheel. It all hasn't got 15000 miles on it and i don't really run it hard very often. I've always thought it didn't shift as smooth as it should. I can bang the hell out of em in my 84 mustang but the t/a seems like its more notchy i guess you could say. Its got syncromesh in it now im thinking about going back to Dex III and seeing if that makes it smoother.
Maybe, but won't keep you locked out of 4th.
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Originally Posted by brians91formula
Well my friend had his at a weigh station and it was 36xx lbs. His was a bone stock 2011 5.0 6 speed. I wanna say it was 3670lbs or close to it. Why would he lie ?

I can ask him again to get the exact numbers if you'd like.
I said loaded.....yes read again LOADED, meaning 19 inch wheels, brembos, spoiler, back up camera, nav .....all that **** adds weight. not a base one with cloth seats and nothing else.
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Originally Posted by F8L BYT
IIRC interventions was a more base model Gt with the gear option correct? That would explain why it was a little lighter, most fully loaded/optioned ot gt's will be more around 3800 i would guess
I know he had 3.73's, Brembo's and leather.




Originally Posted by itsslow98
I said loaded.....yes read again LOADED, meaning 19 inch wheels, brembos, spoiler, back up camera, nav .....all that **** adds weight. not a base one with cloth seats and nothing else.

Don't get your pantys in a bunch. I believe you.
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FWIW my camaro with just about every option from t-tops to leather came in at 3460 with a tank of gas in it. From what Ive seen anywhere from 36xx to 38xx is normal for a new gt atleast the ones I've seen weighed so I'd say a 200 lb difference is reasonable. either way op your car shouldnt have a problem with his.
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Originally Posted by F8L BYT
IIRC interventions was a more base model Gt with the gear option correct? That would explain why it was a little lighter, most fully loaded/optioned ot gt's will be more around 3800 i would guess

Most SS's and WS6's are around the same weight. Maybe they are a slightly lighter around 37XX lbs or so. TA's are known to be on the hefty side since they have extra ground FX and most are loaded with power everything and leather which weigh more. It is only the low/No optioned Z28's and Formulas that were able to weigh in around 3400-3500 lbs. Redbird, have you removed anything because with a full tank in it that is pretty light. I figure probably the jack and spare are gone on most of these cars by now.
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My jack and spare tire are out and sitting in my building but thats all the weight reduction i've done. Its power everything and leather I've got subframe connectors, strut tower brace and LCA relocation brackets but thats probably it that adds weight. I think my TT II's were a little heavier than my factory ones also.
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when i weighed it it was full weight spare tire and jack intact with 1/2 tank of gas im not sure the exact wight of gas so u could probably add a little more in there.
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Originally Posted by redbird555
when i weighed it it was full weight spare tire and jack intact with 1/2 tank of gas im not sure the exact wight of gas so u could probably add a little more in there.
That is cool man you have a lighter vehicle. Gas usually weighs about 6-7 lbs per gallon depending on type and stuff.


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