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Old 12-08-2016, 08:07 PM
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I don't have a max effort ls not even close...I'm running a GM production head,no solid roller camshaft and stock internals. But I do have 373s,run on pump gas,stock wheels,all sway bars hooked up,6500 shift points, can run 10s and trap over 120. A na bro won't nor any 4.6 car unless it's gutted or reved to the moon. Now with boost a 5.0 will kill me in a well though out street car combo
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lol. no way. 260 yes. not 300. it eakes every bolt on in the world to get close. while the secondary ports are cleaned. then never again.
False. My buddy made 301 on a B head cobra with IMRC deletes, pacesetter headers, 4.10 (which are not good for power on dyno), march underdrive pulley and that is it.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
I don't have a max effort ls not even close...I'm running a GM production head,no solid roller camshaft and stock internals. But I do have 373s,run on pump gas,stock wheels,all sway bars hooked up,6500 shift points, can run 10s and trap over 120. A na bro won't nor any 4.6 car unless it's gutted or reved to the moon. Now with boost a 5.0 will kill me in a well though out street car combo
So you're saying your bolt on car runs 10's @ >120mph without a drag pack
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
I don't have a max effort ls not even close...I'm running a GM production head,no solid roller camshaft and stock internals. But I do have 373s,run on pump gas,stock wheels,all sway bars hooked up,6500 shift points, can run 10s and trap over 120. A na bro won't nor any 4.6 car unless it's gutted or reved to the moon. Now with boost a 5.0 will kill me in a well though out street car combo
That is not an answer. Rwtq? No 5.0? Not ANY? You must be making over 600 rwhp.

Saying a heads cam intake bro can't run with you is saying something. Because a h/c/I bro is a 600 rwhp piece. Mine will be a daily driven 550 rwhp bro by next summer.

i will be a 500rwhp cam only bro by spring. now I can't drag race mine, but there are many more who do.
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That is not an answer. Rwtq? No 5.0? Not ANY? You must be making over 600 rwhp.

Saying a heads cam intake bro can't run with you is saying something. Because a h/c/I bro is a 600 rwhp piece. Mine will be a daily driven 550 rwhp bro by next summer.

i will be a 500rwhp cam only bro by spring. now I can't drag race mine, but there are many more who do.
You are not correct. 600 rwhp for a hci 5.0 is a stretch.
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I ran 10s with stock wheels. I never ever had a drag pack on this car


and again reread my post.


A 5.0 or 4.6 with 373s,stock wheels,6500 shift points and na will.never run as fast as me. They need to run fuel,lose weight and rev high to do it. Period. 600 with heads cam????? Not with stock pistons and pump gas. All out of course they are capable of more power, they are newer. But they are plagued by same thing the prior motors had as a problem..no low end power. You need to rev them....
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
I ran 10s with stock wheels. I never ever had a drag pack on this car


and again reread my post.


A 5.0 or 4.6 with 373s,stock wheels,6500 shift points and na will.never run as fast as me. They need to run fuel,lose weight and rev high to do it. Period. 600 with heads cam????? Not with stock pistons and pump gas. All out of course they are capable of more power, they are newer. But they are plagued by same thing the prior motors had as a problem..no low end power. You need to rev them....
Impressive work with a bolt on car I applaud you
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Originally Posted by Nick.H
Impressive work with a bolt on car I applaud you
Its not a bolt on car. H/C car.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
I ran 10s with stock wheels. I never ever had a drag pack on this car
What does your car weigh? Can we see the slip for this? I'm not doubting you, I'm generally curious.
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Originally Posted by ZNix
Its not a bolt on car. H/C car.
I see
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Yup I preach the same
thing. To go fast in those cars and Broginas, they need to rev since they don't have torque and are gutless.
Gutless LOL you ever overlaid a stock ls1 dyno sheet to a coyote?

Yote


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Your LS1 is looking pretty gutless by your standards.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
I ran 10s with stock wheels. I never ever had a drag pack on this car


and again reread my post.


A 5.0 or 4.6 with 373s,stock wheels,6500 shift points and na will.never run as fast as me. They need to run fuel,lose weight and rev high to do it. Period. 600 with heads cam????? Not with stock pistons and pump gas. All out of course they are capable of more power, they are newer. But they are plagued by same thing the prior motors had as a problem..no low end power. You need to rev them....

So, when I put this bro on a Dynojet roller and it makes 425+ rwtq it's a non torque bro? exactly how much torque more than a ls1/6 do I need to make to get out of the torque less category?
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Originally Posted by 99peweterls1
Gutless LOL you ever overlaid a stock ls1 dyno sheet to a coyote?

Yote


LS1


Your LS1 is looking pretty gutless by your standards.
Are you in Huntsville? Member of the local mustang club?
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If they are not gutless then why can't they run tens on pump gas?????

All the fast ones are gutted and have super high rev points and run race gas or e85.

Gets really ugly when you compare an ls3 to one or late Ford v8 era to an LS1.

Sorry Nick I thought you could see my sig. Head cam car. Best time with bolt ons was 11.7 114. I had a lot of mistakes though

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Originally Posted by 99peweterls1
Gutless LOL you ever overlaid a stock ls1 dyno sheet to a coyote?

Yote


LS1


Your LS1 is looking pretty gutless by your standards.
One would think a 5br0 would be faster than it is. One would think they would be no comparison at all.........but they sure are comparable at accelerating a car.

What's funning is the ls1 is old.

I've always contended a ls6 is a better comparison. It's old to.
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The old LS1 clearly utilizes it's power much better than the Coyote.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
One would think a 5br0 would be faster than it is. One would think they would be no comparison at all.........but they sure are comparable at accelerating a car.

What's funning is the ls1 is old.

I've always contended a ls6 is a better comparison. It's old to.
I have no disagreement with most of that.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
If they are not gutless then why can't they run tens on pump gas?????

All the fast ones are gutted and have super high rev points and run race gas or e85.

Gets really ugly when you compare an ls3 to one or late Ford v8 era to an LS1.

I can't speak for them and I don't care to. You said gutless. I made more than 300rwtq from 2500 to 7800. And more than 350 rwtq from 3500 to 7800 in 4th gear.

That's over 400 lb-ft of torque at the crank from 3500 to 7800. If you drove it, you'd realize it has insane torque from 2500 to 7800.

Is it as much as 6.2 liters? Well **** no. It 5 liters. 302 inches making 450 lb-ft at the crank at peak torque in4th gear.
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In all reality the toyota 5br0 out 5br0s the furd 5br0
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Mikey that slip is 10 years old from Cecil. Post your best pass from this year. I crack up when you guys use 247 stipulations.


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