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Old 01-13-2007, 05:47 PM
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My friend has a 2000 SS Camaro with an A4. The question I have is what is faster. The SS or the Z28 if both are A4's? I have read that the SS has 15 more HP than a Z28. Does the hood scoop on the SS really give it a 15 Horsepower advantage?
Old 01-13-2007, 07:18 PM
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da bay area reprezentin!! i think it will be really close.. go race and find out!
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the slight bit of extra hp the SS gets from the scoop is made up for by the z28 with smaller wheels, thinner sway bars, and slightly lighter weight; its a drivers race, plain and simple.
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both are slow get a mach 1 and we will talk ls1 = slow
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lol noride
i see u really put some mods into that mach 1
is your mach 1 in the 13's yet

as for ss v z28, its a close race. go find out
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thats outstanding!!

Originally Posted by onefastsunsetSS
lol noride
i see u really put some mods into that mach 1
is your mach 1 in the 13's yet

as for ss v z28, its a close race. go find out
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it wouild be to close to call. unless you have gears or tires, it will be a drivers race.
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Its a drivers race. Both cars should have about the same power.

Let us know the results.
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Hood scoop is worth at least another 80HP. But then you wouldnt know 'cause you havent raced yet!

Luckily theres not a 2000 TA ram air or you would both be in trouble. The ram air is worth another 60HP above yours even though the power pasenger seat adds another 10oz of weight.
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Originally Posted by noride
both are slow get a mach 1 and we will talk ls1 = slow
hehe, this was good for a Saturday night laugh
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Originally Posted by 2K1WS6TA
hehe, this was good for a Saturday night laugh
Yep.
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It's good to know the SS and Z are pretty much the same. I always thought the SS was faster.
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i think those 2 r about even, but an 02 ss(with lid & exhaust option) v. an 02 z28 would definatley go to the ss
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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
Its a drivers race. Both cars should have about the same power.

Let us know the results.
Sorry guys I don't own a Z28 ( I used to though....1995 Z28). I currently own a 1999 Mustang Gt and a C6 A6 Corvette.

The reason why I started this thread is I cant convince my friend that has a 2000 SS coupe that the SS and Z28 both dyno the same as does the C5. I thought that by posting this thread and him reading your replys he might understand that it's a drivers race between the two. hell, even an auto vert C5 could easily fall victim to a well driven F-body.

One more question: Does the hood scoop come into play as far as giving the SS the advantage at higher speed hence a higher volume of airflow for the intake?

Thanks guys for your replys!!
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I recall a post where a guy with an SS hood and a Super Sucker Ram Air (for those unfamiliar, SSRA is a plastic extension which funnels air from below - basically a mod which captures the Free Ram Air mod) used block off plates to see if he ran quicker with the SS hood only, with the SSRA open only, or with both the SSRA and the hood open.
I think the results were very slight (maybe 1 mph in the 1/4 mile, but we all know 1 mph is a range of error negligible to conclude with).
His test doesn't answer your question directly, as you're asking for SS hood vs. stock intake of air into the lid results. But, we all know every Z28 is a FRA away from freeing up its intake tract (a mod which can be done in 15 minutes).

To answer your question simply and to give it a number, I'd call it a difference of: 1 mph on a stock setup. Freeing up the path to the lid is very important once modding commences.

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Originally Posted by SSpeedracer
Hood scoop is worth at least another 80HP. But then you wouldnt know 'cause you havent raced yet!

Luckily theres not a 2000 TA ram air or you would both be in trouble. The ram air is worth another 60HP above yours even though the power pasenger seat adds another 10oz of weight.
That's 60hp PER gorilla nostril, for a combined total of +120hp. If you have the WS-9 or Outlaw hood, you're probably closer to +200hp.
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my car would wipe SS's all day. but mine was a no option Z28. so it weighed alot less then the SS's that i raced.
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Originally Posted by Fastphilly
Sorry guys I don't own a Z28 ( I used to though....1995 Z28). I currently own a 1999 Mustang Gt and a C6 A6 Corvette.

The reason why I started this thread is I cant convince my friend that has a 2000 SS coupe that the SS and Z28 both dyno the same as does the C5. I thought that by posting this thread and him reading your replys he might understand that it's a drivers race between the two. hell, even an auto vert C5 could easily fall victim to a well driven F-body.

One more question: Does the hood scoop come into play as far as giving the SS the advantage at higher speed hence a higher volume of airflow for the intake?

Thanks guys for your replys!!
the C5 and camaros will dyno the same thing, yes. but the advanatage is very much in favor for the vette it weighs a lot less.
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In january of 03 I bought a brand new SS 6pd with the 345hp package.
Took it to No Problem Raceway with about 1k miles on the car. All I did was remove the filter and made two passes.
first pass was 13.4et @111mph w/ 2.360 ft bogged car of the line

2nd pass still bogged of the line 2.2sec 60ft. 13.11et @111.78mph

I was very impressed.
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Go race em, and post the results!
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Originally Posted by noride
both are slow get a mach 1 and we will talk ls1 = slow
Ur lucky ur not around here or id have to embarass a mach with an lt1



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