CKZ

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Why do the Strano springs make the car sit much higher in the rear? At first I thought it was because I had a 12-bolt but, every car I've seen with the springs sits the same way.

ERIK@MASPORT

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Maybe they have to settle a bit..
What shocks are you running?

Erik

CKZ

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Koni SA (like most people)

Sam Strano

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So much higher than what? A 12-bolt will raise the car because the axle tubes the springs sit above are bigger, making the spring perches higher off the ground, making the car higher off the ground.

Also, if you take weight out of the rear like seats, carpeting and such that some folks do, that will raise the rear since there is less weight to compress the springs, even @ rest. We aren't talking a huge amount of total weight to start with, and the springs aren't super heavy so it takes not a ton or weight removal (or addition) to effect the ride height.

I'm not sure I see what you see: https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/576054-before-after-pics-strano-springs.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/653781-strano-springs-pics.html

Those cars don't seem to be sitting tail high to me.....

93TAWicked1

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HMM interesting most of the Camaro pics I see it seems to be the opposite. In fact I was kinda of happy that the 75 pounds I added to the front end might bring it down a bit when I get the springs (100 from LSX - 25 from UMI K member approx.)

BTW Sam are the springs in stock yet? We need to talk My 454 setup with the suspension and nine inch I have is little scary. When the springs come in stock I'll give you a call and we can discuss my needs... End of Highjack.

On another not couldn't you modify the spring isolaters in the rear to lower it down a bit. I removed them on my vert not sure if that is a good idea or not but it lowered there rear nicely.

Sam Strano

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Um, to start with the UMI k-member is 25 pounds lighter than stock, not heavier than stock.

I haven't see all these pictures of my springs dropping the rear more, I'd be curious to see some. Now there are springs that do, but just because spring A, B, C and E do, doesn't mean D necessarily will also.

And you can do the isolator/hose mod on rear lowering springs if you wish, just like you can on stock springs.

93TAWicked1

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Umm read the thread completely I said 100 pounds from the LSX block MINUS the 25 pounds from the UMI K member is where I came up with my front being 75 pounds heavier than stock.

Plus are the springs in stock yet??

Sam Strano

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My bad I didn't follow. The way you wrote "(100 from LSX - 25 from UMI K member approx.)" didn't seem to differentiate the additional weight of the engine from the lesser weight of the K-member. We're on the same page now.

Of note: THIS is why I don't do setups by e-mail. Too easy to get your wires crossed.

Darksol

To please the crowd......

Sam Strano

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https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/688764-suspension-parts.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=576054
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653781
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/686357-strano-springs-pics-inside.html

how's that?

Thanks you guys for posting those pics, they're helpful.

Viper

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Stock and Koni:

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/viper99t...60762346633084


Sam and Koni:

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/viper99t...60762346632801

4 year old Eibach's and revalved Strano Bilsteins:

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/viper99t...60762346628406

Sam Strano

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And of note, you'll see the rear is a bit high vs. the front in both pics..... John's car is pretty well gutted back there. No seat, no spare, I think the carpet might be gone too. Less weight = higher ride height no matter the spring, more weight = lower ride height, no matter the springs.

CKZ

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I wasn't being critical, I was just looking for some feedback or to see if there is a theory behind the rear being a bit higher (before I made an adjustment). So, thanks!

Also, I've never seen a 12-bolt make a car sit higher. Stock or otherwise...

Interesting note about the interior affecting the height of the rear. The interior is out of my car at the moment so maybe that's way the backend is dramatically higher. But, even when I stood in the trunk (I weigh 205lbs), there wasn't much of a difference.

Sam Strano

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I don't know how you can't see a ride height difference between a 10 and 12 bolt. The 12 bolts' axles are thicker, and the springs sit atop the axle tubes. 12-bolt cars always sit higher than with a 10-bolt installed. Always. Can't not if all else is the same.

If you standing in the trunk didn't matter, then you have something bound up in the suspension. The spring are 150 lbs/in. You are 205 pounds. You should have seen around a .3" ride height change given your weight.

OvalHunter

my two cents... the amount of drop I got from Sam's springs was right as advertised. I too wondered about the 1" - 2" debate and I went with his stuff because of the track tested nature of his setup. The stance is right on - handling is awesome - could'nt be happier.

Darksol

Thanks for the links.....pictures are worth a thousand words.