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Old 10-02-2007, 09:12 PM
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which is the quickest and easiest way to gain traction? im planning on a torque arm first adjustable. is a BMR tracpac any better then an adjustable torque arm with a relo kit? planning on doing something within the next week or so. i can get the trac pac for $379 or the arm with the crossmember for about $450. how many of you have done either, and was it worth it?
Old 10-02-2007, 09:22 PM
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tires = traction

suspension controls how your car reacts to that traction, if applied properly.

but to answer your question, yes torque arms, lca's, relocation brackets, etc, all help to increase traction. some things you can skimp on are chromoly, and adjustables if you arent lowered.
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Fatter, stickier tires

shorter torque arms put more weight down on the rear axle under launch.
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already have 26/10.5 mickey et streets(non radial) so a shorty torque arm is faster?
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Short torque arms put more force down on the rear axle under launch... but some serious cars (Like with tubbed rears, huge tires and 800+ HP need a long (stock length) torque arm because the power is sort of overwhelming) But it sounds like a shorter arm might be your ticket.
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i have heard numerous times that the shorter arms induce wheelhop under braking is this true?
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yes

like most everything else you will ever do to a car there will be some compromise..

there is an item called a decoupled torque arm made by unbalanced engineering that acts like a long arm under braking and a short arm under acceleration.. its expensive, its heavy, its hard to set up and i'm not sure if anyone has ever had any real success with it
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Originally Posted by OldeSkool
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like most everything else you will ever do to a car there will be some compromise..

there is an item called a decoupled torque arm made by unbalanced engineering that acts like a long arm under braking and a short arm under acceleration.. its expensive, its heavy, its hard to set up and i'm not sure if anyone has ever had any real success with it
I believe some of the members over on www.frrax.com have coerced it into working. But this is in a road race/handling scenario, NOT a max 60'/launch/e.t. drag race application.
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Add 500 pounds of lead in the trunk =)

I like the M/T ET street radials better than the et street slick tires, they also have a softer compound and are more stable on the top end or driving around.

In my opinion I would start with the tires and front adjustable shocks and air bag in right rear also C/E makes a 3 way adjustable drag shock for the rear that is very affordable and works great.

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but i have to get at least a torque arm with a relo kit. i have already broken one tailshaft housing and if i keep racing it will break another in the near future. is there anyone that isnt happy with their umi torque arm with tunnel mount?
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slicks and vht. and some sand bags in the trunk wouldn't hurt.
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If you are looking into torque arms, UMI HAS GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ARE VERY HELPFUL. Also, i have talked to Tyson at performance auto fab and he is a great guy to deal with, he has some pics of his Torque arm on the site, it looks awesome, actually I'll post url's to the pics.

http://home.comcast.net/~tfranklin55.../TA2_small.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tfranklin55...ension/TA4.jpg
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Originally Posted by XX11SECZXX
but i have to get at least a torque arm with a relo kit. i have already broken one tailshaft housing and if i keep racing it will break another in the near future. is there anyone that isnt happy with their umi torque arm with tunnel mount?
I didn't care much for the increase in vibration and noise... but its just the price you pay..
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i dont think the noise would bother me much. has anyone relocated the battery to the back of the car?
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people have and that will probably not show up on your 60-ft.. but you'll feel better knowing you've done it. There are some ready-made brackets (I think BMR makes one) that'll hold it in the spare tire well which is luckily on the right side.

Another good thing to put in the spare tire well is a nitrous bottle Do that, run the lines under the carpet and get one of the inside-the-manifold kits and you'll have a totally hidden nitrous system
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i had my bottle in the wheel well for the longest time. now its right inbetween where the back seats used to be. i just got my control arms boxed and some energy suspension bushings for them. im gonna try that first
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Originally Posted by XX11SECZXX
i had my bottle in the wheel well for the longest time. now its right inbetween where the back seats used to be. i just got my control arms boxed and some energy suspension bushings for them. im gonna try that first
this is ok for drag racing.. terrible for street cars and handling.
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I work around tires all day long. Tires do equal traction. Drag radials are you best friend when it comes to driving to the track and back with out breaking the law. However, if it's your daily driver, you'll want to avoid them, because you'll be visiting the tire store in 5,000 miles. So just get the fatest tire you can on your wheel that doesn't rub and you'll be set. But, yeah, mods to the suspension help a great geal.
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I'm sorry are you saying all tires hook the same ??... Uhh im gonna have to dis-agree .. thats why they have that little writting on the side of the tire that says "TREADWEAR" or "WET TRACTION" maybe even the designator .. as in all season or max performance ... wide tires will hook better than a smaller tire yes but people with real cars that make power ... need this thing we like to call a Contact patch and naturally the more contact the more traction.



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