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Old 04-23-2011, 09:41 PM
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Just the fact that they are made in china is enough for me to stay away.

MADE IN THE USA is the only way to go

i would pay more simply because its made in the usa
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Originally Posted by SATAN
Duty cycle is not how long you can weld before the machine trips it's protection light.

IF you exceed the duty cycle, then your heat protection will trip
You're not the brightest apple on the tree are you?
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
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Yeah, I guess that kind of came out wrong LOL.

Basically what I meant to say is... . If you are tripping the protector, then you have ALREADY exceeded the duty cycle of the welder BEFORE the protector tripped. The protector is just to keep you from going further and melting down your machine.
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Originally Posted by sjsingle1
i am a certified welder......and i dont even know that answer.......but then again i have never had to buy a welding machine either


^ This scares me....

And people wonder why my rates are $105/hr
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Originally Posted by BADD SS
^ This scares me....

And people wonder why my rates are $105/hr
$105/hr seems like a pretty reasonable rate to me. I don't know you or your work, but that is right down the middle of the road for performance work in the Denver area.
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Originally Posted by SATAN
$105/hr seems like a pretty reasonable rate to me. I don't know you or your work, but that is right down the middle of the road for performance work in the Denver area.
Well IMO it is middle of the road, but then you got the crackheads who drop the average. And everyone is penny wise dollar short nowadays... At least here.

Everything from 40+ foot car haulers to torque arms and roll cages, to ornamental Ironwork...
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check craiglist. I would say 200 for a mig setup is unrealistic...maybe harbor freight? I got a hobart handler 140 for like 450 shipped free with a cart and from northern tool. However, once adding a helmet, gloves and gas tank youre looking at $600. But Im very happy with my setup. FYI you can go with a sheap helmet if you plan on only welding mild steel....but stainless seems to weld brighter and you might get a welding burn with cheap glass and stainless
I also, I concur that duty cycle is how long it will go before overheating. Also, make sure you know if youre buying a 115 volt vs 220 (most are 220) and make sure youre running it on a breaker with at least 20 amp capacity.
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Originally Posted by SATAN
Yeah, I guess that kind of came out wrong LOL.

Basically what I meant to say is... . If you are tripping the protector, then you have ALREADY exceeded the duty cycle of the welder BEFORE the protector tripped. The protector is just to keep you from going further and melting down your machine.
I just try to keep answers simple when talking about some things....welding is one of them. My answer wasn't going for 100% correctness.



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