10 sec full weight a4 cars.What kind of setup will it take to hit 10s
07-17-2009, 06:23 PM
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Seeing as I went 10.90 weighing 3700lbs with 450rwhp.....I got test data to back it up.
10.58 weighing 3585 in better air, no motor changes at all.
DOnt matter how much power you got if you dont know how to use it.
I have seen cars go LOW 10's with 420 to the wheels weighing 3500lbs. Ever seen a super stocker?
07-17-2009, 06:45 PM
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I think the main reason people don't go tens often with 450-460RWHP is due the amount of high reading dynos out there. We get alot of 400RWHP 12 second cars out here
07-17-2009, 07:09 PM
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i agree with that.. my last setup. for one thing i was running stock 3.42 gears and had 2.0 sixty foot times and a junk tranny i was only pulling a 12.99 et but was running 112 mph.. the mph was there to run low 12s but horrible 60 foot times and i had to let completely out of it in between shifts to get the 6 speed to shift.. i never dynoed the car but if i had to guess it was pushing at least 410- 420 at the wheels.. ive learned a lot by researching that its all in bottom end power.. and a good torque curve.. not the max HP number..
07-18-2009, 10:26 AM
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I don't even like posting dyno #'s unless it's a before -> after comparision and the test is apples to apples. Dyno #'s don't mean crap unless you put it to the pavement. My car made some very strong #'s for my set up, but I refuse to put up exact #'s. I would rather let the track #'s speak for the car and the overall package.
07-19-2009, 10:41 AM
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I RAN A 7.26 fri nite 1.58 60 foot at 92 mph dyno numbers in sig 3500 with me in the car hope this help! shes got alittle more in her, the car was hitting the rev limiter from 1st to 2nd
1/8 mile track
1/8 mile track
07-19-2009, 05:30 PM
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It was 3540 w/o a driver... I am about 175-180lbs myself. It dyno'd north of 450 RWHP. My #'s are similar to yours, with a little more torque. Your car is leaving good with a 1.58 the first time out. Get into the 1.4's and you're golden. That's my next step, get a strong rear and a different converter. I'm trying to go 10.50's this winter without making any more power. Just better DA and a harder launch.
07-24-2009, 04:13 PM
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I think it would need a little more than 450RWHP through an auto to get there full weight. I had a 442RWHP full weight A4 car before this one, 4.10's etc. and it was going 11.6's hitting the limiter on the 2-3 shift, 3700 with me in it (I weigh 175). With some suspension and the limiter issue fixed I think the car was capable of 11.2-11.3's. Heres what I'd do:
TFS 215's + thinner gasket to bump compression
Custom big grind cam
4.10's in the 10 bolt (you won't need the 12 bolt anything sub 500RWHP in an A4, and its lighter)
1 7/8 or 2" primary headers
True Duals
3500-4000 stall (the gears will make it feel tighter so don't worry about going 4k) + built tranny
Seat time
TFS 215's + thinner gasket to bump compression
Custom big grind cam
4.10's in the 10 bolt (you won't need the 12 bolt anything sub 500RWHP in an A4, and its lighter)
1 7/8 or 2" primary headers
True Duals
3500-4000 stall (the gears will make it feel tighter so don't worry about going 4k) + built tranny
Seat time
07-25-2009, 01:41 AM
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My DD is full weight(3550) without me in it.
218/224 .550 112, ls6 yellows. Pacesetters, borla. 150 wet hit. UMI tunnel mount TA, UMI rod end lcas w/ lowering brackets and PHB, no sway bar in front, mickey 255/50/16 DR's, and a 2800-3000 Vig stall. Stock 3.23 rear
Not quite 10.90s, but 11.01 @ almost 124 is close.
218/224 .550 112, ls6 yellows. Pacesetters, borla. 150 wet hit. UMI tunnel mount TA, UMI rod end lcas w/ lowering brackets and PHB, no sway bar in front, mickey 255/50/16 DR's, and a 2800-3000 Vig stall. Stock 3.23 rear
Not quite 10.90s, but 11.01 @ almost 124 is close.
07-25-2009, 01:48 AM
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he wants to do it NA i believe..
i was close to there, but i had weight reduction and stock suspension hurts
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nice flowing heads.. AFRs or the such
custom big grind cam
373-410s (depends on how much your gonna drive the car on the road)
4k VIG coverter or 4400 of most other brans... VIG flashes high..
Xpipe with 1 chambers or some other free flowing exhaust
ported FAST intake
whatever necessary suspension components that will get you to hook
that should get you really close..
i was close to there, but i had weight reduction and stock suspension hurts
.. nice flowing heads.. AFRs or the such
custom big grind cam
373-410s (depends on how much your gonna drive the car on the road)
4k VIG coverter or 4400 of most other brans... VIG flashes high..
Xpipe with 1 chambers or some other free flowing exhaust
ported FAST intake
whatever necessary suspension components that will get you to hook
that should get you really close..
07-25-2009, 11:42 PM
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this is interesting, my goals are in this order:
1: full bolt on 12 second car
2: cam only 11 second car
3: head cam low 11 high 10 car
4: Stroked motor, reuse heads, custom cam mid to low 10's
some nitrous can be added at any stage but i would like to have a real fast N/A car. I love the idea of nitrous but i think you get more respect from doing it N/A.
1: full bolt on 12 second car
2: cam only 11 second car
3: head cam low 11 high 10 car
4: Stroked motor, reuse heads, custom cam mid to low 10's
some nitrous can be added at any stage but i would like to have a real fast N/A car. I love the idea of nitrous but i think you get more respect from doing it N/A.