bad night at the track
3D dont listen to this toolbox he has no idea what your trying to say. And im not sure why hes running his mouth you are faster than him with exhaust only lt1.. Hey 7 camaro 7 i bet i can beat your 1/4 mile time on street tires too.
what do they all have in common? they "BOLT ON!"
what is the difference in function between after market cat back and intake, and a supercharger relative to performance?
THEY BOTH INCREASE IT!
what is 275+more than 0? MORE THAN 275! nuff bout that
I don't know why you're talking smack way over there
I've only been beat by one lt1 and that was in an rx7
otherwise, I just take advantage of them(whether you like it or not)
at first it was 3d just plain getting on my nerves but then I ragged on his lt... YEA I MEANT IT(but mostly against his specifically)
the way I feel is I really don't like lt1's. They're hard to work on, weak overall compared to the ls. They're outdated and just a mess of an engine in my opinion. I have two friends with lt1s and do they get respect sure they do. They respect me and mine. I don't talk **** to them unless they do to me... and they know whats up. I have helped them work on there cars before too. I'm a nice guy, but I don't take ****. However I don't like lt1s(the engine specifically)the cars are fine.(when the owners are not ignorant)
but like I said to the op, try adding weight to the trunk and see what happens(20lbs at a time). If the results are good keep adding till they start getting bad. Its just fun to mess with. Its kinda like relocating the battery to the trunk, it helps in weight transfer. Its why RWD works better in a drag race vs FWD. FWD, the weight still shifts to the rear, but most of the traction is needed in the front. There are other ways to get better traction too, stickier tires, suspension, better burnout, and good track prep. I just know how to say it without being a dick like the other 3 in here
Last edited by 7camaro7; Mar 30, 2009 at 01:52 PM.
headers/underdrive pulley/supercharger/turbo charger/nitrous/wheels
what do they all have in common? they "BOLT ON!"
what is the difference in funtion between after market cat back and intake, and a supercharger relative to performance?
THEY BOTH INCREASE IT!
what is 275+more than 0? MORE THAN 275! nuff bout that
no you cantI don't know why you're talking smack way over there
I've only been beat by one lt1 and that was in an rx7
otherwise, I just take advantage of them(whether you like it or not)
at first it was 3d just plain getting on my nerves but then I ragged on his lt... YEA I MEANT IT(but mostly against his specifically)
the way I feel is I really don't like lt1's. They're hard to work on, weak overall compared to the ls. They're outdated and just a mess of an engine in my opinion. I have two friends with lt1s and do they get respect sure they do. They respect me and mine. I don't talk **** to them unless they do to me... and they know whats up. I have helped them work on there cars before too. I'm a nice guy, but I don't take ****. However I don't like lt1s(the engine specifically)the cars are fine.(when the owners are not ignorant)
but like I said to the op, try adding weight to the trunk and see what happens(20lbs at a time). If the results are good keep adding till they start getting bad. Its just fun to mess with. Its kinda like relocating the battery to the trunk, it helps in weight transfer. Its why RWD works better in a drag race vs FWD. FWD, the weight still shifts to the rear, but most of the traction is needed in the front. There are other ways to get better traction too, stickier tires, suspension, better burnout, and good track prep. I just know how to say it without being a dick like the other 3 in here
what do they all have in common? they "BOLT ON!"
what is the difference in funtion between after market cat back and intake, and a supercharger relative to performance?
THEY BOTH INCREASE IT!
what is 275+more than 0? MORE THAN 275! nuff bout that
no you cant
I don't know why you're talking smack way over thereI've only been beat by one lt1 and that was in an rx7
otherwise, I just take advantage of them(whether you like it or not)
at first it was 3d just plain getting on my nerves but then I ragged on his lt... YEA I MEANT IT(but mostly against his specifically)
the way I feel is I really don't like lt1's. They're hard to work on, weak overall compared to the ls. They're outdated and just a mess of an engine in my opinion. I have two friends with lt1s and do they get respect sure they do. They respect me and mine. I don't talk **** to them unless they do to me... and they know whats up. I have helped them work on there cars before too. I'm a nice guy, but I don't take ****. However I don't like lt1s(the engine specifically)the cars are fine.(when the owners are not ignorant)
but like I said to the op, try adding weight to the trunk and see what happens(20lbs at a time). If the results are good keep adding till they start getting bad. Its just fun to mess with. Its kinda like relocating the battery to the trunk, it helps in weight transfer. Its why RWD works better in a drag race vs FWD. FWD, the weight still shifts to the rear, but most of the traction is needed in the front. There are other ways to get better traction too, stickier tires, suspension, better burnout, and good track prep. I just know how to say it without being a dick like the other 3 in here
Your just an idiot im done.
headers/underdrive pulley/supercharger/turbo charger/nitrous/wheels
what do they all have in common? they "BOLT ON!"
what is the difference in function between after market cat back and intake, and a supercharger relative to performance?
THEY BOTH INCREASE IT!
what is 275+more than 0? MORE THAN 275! nuff bout that
no you cantI don't know why you're talking smack way over there
I've only been beat by one lt1 and that was in an rx7
otherwise, I just take advantage of them(whether you like it or not)
at first it was 3d just plain getting on my nerves but then I ragged on his lt... YEA I MEANT IT(but mostly against his specifically)
the way I feel is I really don't like lt1's. They're hard to work on, weak overall compared to the ls. They're outdated and just a mess of an engine in my opinion. I have two friends with lt1s and do they get respect sure they do. They respect me and mine. I don't talk **** to them unless they do to me... and they know whats up. I have helped them work on there cars before too. I'm a nice guy, but I don't take ****. However I don't like lt1s(the engine specifically)the cars are fine.(when the owners are not ignorant)
but like I said to the op, try adding weight to the trunk and see what happens(20lbs at a time). If the results are good keep adding till they start getting bad. Its just fun to mess with. Its kinda like relocating the battery to the trunk, it helps in weight transfer. Its why RWD works better in a drag race vs FWD. FWD, the weight still shifts to the rear, but most of the traction is needed in the front. There are other ways to get better traction too, stickier tires, suspension, better burnout, and good track prep. I just know how to say it without being a dick like the other 3 in here
what do they all have in common? they "BOLT ON!"
what is the difference in function between after market cat back and intake, and a supercharger relative to performance?
THEY BOTH INCREASE IT!
what is 275+more than 0? MORE THAN 275! nuff bout that
no you cant
I don't know why you're talking smack way over thereI've only been beat by one lt1 and that was in an rx7
otherwise, I just take advantage of them(whether you like it or not)
at first it was 3d just plain getting on my nerves but then I ragged on his lt... YEA I MEANT IT(but mostly against his specifically)
the way I feel is I really don't like lt1's. They're hard to work on, weak overall compared to the ls. They're outdated and just a mess of an engine in my opinion. I have two friends with lt1s and do they get respect sure they do. They respect me and mine. I don't talk **** to them unless they do to me... and they know whats up. I have helped them work on there cars before too. I'm a nice guy, but I don't take ****. However I don't like lt1s(the engine specifically)the cars are fine.(when the owners are not ignorant)
but like I said to the op, try adding weight to the trunk and see what happens(20lbs at a time). If the results are good keep adding till they start getting bad. Its just fun to mess with. Its kinda like relocating the battery to the trunk, it helps in weight transfer. Its why RWD works better in a drag race vs FWD. FWD, the weight still shifts to the rear, but most of the traction is needed in the front. There are other ways to get better traction too, stickier tires, suspension, better burnout, and good track prep. I just know how to say it without being a dick like the other 3 in here
And you are an idiot to say that the LT1 is a mess of an engine. Sure they aren't the LS1, but godamn man they are an improvement on the original Chevy small block that's withstood the test of how many years... oh that's right over 50. It's all in technology that the LS1 puts out more than the LT1, but the LT1 is a torquey friggin motor. It may not respond as well to mods, but to say its a mess is absolutely ridiculous.
about the batteries, I just mentioned relocating the one that comes in the car. Putting 4 more in the trunk, (which is not what I said) would give more traction, no?
and I still don't like the lt1 or people who think ADDING WEIGHT OVER THE REAR WHEELS WILL NOT IMPROVE TRACTION I never said it was the best way...
in drag racing, the more you lighten the front, the more you improve weight transfer to the rear on launch, (kinda like adding weight to the rear), but with less overall weight.
because of 3 or 4 dull knives in this drawer, this thread is so long...
The best way to improve traction is to get a built 9", slicks, and suspension/chassis mods...
and I still don't like the lt1
or people who think ADDING WEIGHT OVER THE REAR WHEELS WILL NOT IMPROVE TRACTION I never said it was the best way...in drag racing, the more you lighten the front, the more you improve weight transfer to the rear on launch, (kinda like adding weight to the rear), but with less overall weight.
because of 3 or 4 dull knives in this drawer, this thread is so long...
The best way to improve traction is to get a built 9", slicks, and suspension/chassis mods...
I've never heard of a full weight full bolton street tire SS with ALL THE SUSPENSION IN THE WORLD running 11s how about you show me one?
hmmmmmmmmmmm
here's one that runs 10.50's not full weight, but would run high 10's full weight.
http://www.racingjunk.com/post/13283...ns-Am-LS1.html
just in case you need to see what the S/E crowd is limited to, here's some rules.
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/stoc...ator-5481.html
base out of this is stock lift cam, stock pistons, stock ports, stock intake ports, stock throttle body, stock sized injectors, factory GM transmission and rear end, must meet minimum weight.
Basically this means that these cars rely completely on squeezing the most power out of their limited modifications, and TONS of suspension work.
so agreed... adding weight for crap suspension or tires is a viable temporary option, but you'll be faster overall if you set the suspension up correctly, and go from there.
hmmmmmmmmmmm
here's one that runs 10.50's not full weight, but would run high 10's full weight.
http://www.racingjunk.com/post/13283...ns-Am-LS1.html
just in case you need to see what the S/E crowd is limited to, here's some rules.
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/stoc...ator-5481.html
base out of this is stock lift cam, stock pistons, stock ports, stock intake ports, stock throttle body, stock sized injectors, factory GM transmission and rear end, must meet minimum weight.
Basically this means that these cars rely completely on squeezing the most power out of their limited modifications, and TONS of suspension work.
so agreed... adding weight for crap suspension or tires is a viable temporary option, but you'll be faster overall if you set the suspension up correctly, and go from there.
Last edited by quickie70; Mar 30, 2009 at 05:43 PM. Reason: link
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and I still don't like your car Last edited by 7camaro7; Mar 31, 2009 at 02:38 PM.
Last time I went to the track I ran a 12.9 @ 110 with a 2.0 60'. since then I took out over 130pounds and stuff from the car and got the car tuned. Last night I only ran a 12.84 @ 112. My BEST 60' was a horrible 2.17. My worst was a 2.4. I think taking out weight and having only 1/4 in the tank compared to 3/4 in the tank and full weight made me spin like crazy. I'm on street tires. Either taking weight out hurt me or a shitty track. I think this car is a good 12.5-6 with some traction.
Man, It's like I am reading my mail...
My car is hyper sensitive to temp and humidity changes... its likely that the last time you ran... you had better air... and track prep is key to the 60', so maybe a combo... worse air, worse prep.
If you're running street tires, you must already know that the driver is in control of traction.... you simply aren't going to be able to lean on the grippers and suspension to grab; it's you and the throttle.
I'd take at least one more night at the trck, before I got too worried about it. If you want to solve the problem, a set of Mickeys is in order; then you can slam the hammer and launch and that will tell you where you're at over the 60...
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lol jesus. The only suspension mods I have is SFCs and a panhard bar. Sticky tires are not an option for me. Can't afford to replace gears or a rear end.
From what is done to my car and me being on street tires, taking out the weight hurt me. I know once I get some sticky tires the weight reduction will be helpful. But in this case on street tires it only made it worse. The track for me is a good time. I don't need to hit a certain ET. I did have traction in second gear... my clutch hated that. The ls7 should be in a few weeks.
From what is done to my car and me being on street tires, taking out the weight hurt me. I know once I get some sticky tires the weight reduction will be helpful. But in this case on street tires it only made it worse. The track for me is a good time. I don't need to hit a certain ET. I did have traction in second gear... my clutch hated that. The ls7 should be in a few weeks.
lol jesus. The only suspension mods I have is SFCs and a panhard bar. Sticky tires are not an option for me. Can't afford to replace gears or a rear end.
From what is done to my car and me being on street tires, taking out the weight hurt me. I know once I get some sticky tires the weight reduction will be helpful. But in this case on street tires it only made it worse. The track for me is a good time. I don't need to hit a certain ET. I did have traction in second gear... my clutch hated that. The ls7 should be in a few weeks.
From what is done to my car and me being on street tires, taking out the weight hurt me. I know once I get some sticky tires the weight reduction will be helpful. But in this case on street tires it only made it worse. The track for me is a good time. I don't need to hit a certain ET. I did have traction in second gear... my clutch hated that. The ls7 should be in a few weeks.
What times do you run in your awesome ls1 prolly mid 13's. Your poking fun at 3d formula's car even though he'd beat you at the track you are def a d bag.. us lt-1's have better watch out this tool has the 345 hp package center exhaust package uh oh what a waste of money