Originally Posted by z99ls1

No one is saying to go run in the heat. How about you try coming down here. It has been 100+ everyday for like 2 months and our d/a here is in the 4000 plus range. Anyone knows when you run in hot *** weather with a shitty d/a your times are going to be much slower. Your first post made it sound like h/c/i cars are ok to be running mid 12's. **** I went to the track in 90 degree weather the other d/a with horrible track prep. I cut a 1.9 60ft with a 3800ft d/a and still ran a 12.8@107. It's not miths people are running 12's and low 12's with bolt-ons. The run below was on some shitty 89 octane with ethanol. It was a very nice day in the vid and it was still 2000ft d/a

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnBIs...el_video_title

Originally Posted by Camaro9969

Haha your swapping it with a m6? Ill be curious of the time difference that's a nice car and will be so much fun drive on the street with a manual. I can't believe you're still on the 10 bolt! Congratulations!

Originally Posted by Mystery Bird

I know right. ET's will suffer but I'll be happy as long as trap speed goes up. I only live 20 or so minutes from the track so I don't mind risking it with the 10 bolt.

Originally Posted by 1of625

If you want to be a smart azz↑↑↑↑ I can be one to,,because you just spent money on a factory 10bolt buying 4.11 gears to run the same exact time that you ran with 3.42gears which in the end equals fail especially when the 10bolt leaves you stranded at the track.

You run a 1.786 60ft in 66dgree weather with a DA of 1602 and you still couldn't get into the 11's even with 4.11gears.

I could only dream of 66degree weather and a 1602DA in August at my local track,,,hell my car would have ran a 11second pass bouncing off the rev limiter with a 2.0+ 60ft with 3.42 gears with Toyo DR's if the DA was 1602 at my local track.

I can go on and on ,,but the fact still remains if you would have raced your car on the same day same time August 26th 2011 at 7.35pm at my local drag strip it was 87.8degrees outside with a DA of 3130 you would have ran a 12.7-12.8 based on the time slips you posted at the start of this page.

Am I starting to make since to you now??? because I can't make my point any clearer than what I just wrote above↑↑↑ the facts and reasons are there.

So agian you and others can make all the remarks you want about my first reply to this thread ,,,but agian as noted above based on my local track conditions I just don't see what yall are seeing at your local tracks that often especially in June,July,August,and September if the temps are still in the 90degree range threw out the day.

Originally Posted by 1of625

Ha ha funny ↑↑↑

SLP Iroc-Z ,,,,To prove my point agian ,,,, At New England Dragway on August 26th 2011 at 7:55pm it was 70degree's with a DA of 1054.

So at my local track same day around the same time your 12.7 at 109 would have been a 13.1-13.2 at 107mph.

Point proven agian to my first reply.

Originally Posted by Mystery Bird

You can't go the same day I'm going for the first time with a 6 speed. No one can go, I don't want anyone laughing when I stall it off the line or miss a shift or spit the carrier out the back.

Originally Posted by 1of625

↑↑ Obviously I have finally gotten my point across to someone about what I see at my local track June-September.

Originally Posted by SLP IROC-Z

you didnt have to post in this thread for me or most anyone else here to know that weather and altitude effect performance. i am well aware, that is basic knowledge in this hobby.

it seems youre not as aware of what youre preaching as you think you are, probably the reason you find other members ETs on forums to be "exagerated".

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

x2. You should be trapping 120mph + with 423rwhp (I trap 124+ with 413rwhp). 4.10 should actually be to much gear if your on a 26" tire. What rpm are you turning? What's your car weight?

Originally Posted by z99ls1

If you are seeing people with h/c/i running mid 12's they are just ******* retarded and should sell there cars. That is pathetic. My bolt-on car runs 12.3's. There are people on here in 11's with bot-ons and stock internals. It's not people just posting up bs. If you have a cammed/bolt-on car that isn't running 11.4's-12.1's with a d/a under 2800 either they can't drive, can't cut a decent 60ft or something is wrong. And a h/c/i car running mid 12's should not happen. You should not be running 12.3's with your mods. You have problems I see, but god damn.

Originally Posted by Camaro9969

There's not many 6 speed 11 second cars but every auto i see at lebanon runs low to mid 11's that's the trick get an automatic and run 11s but i like a challenge

Originally Posted by z99ls1

If you are seeing people with h/c/i running mid 12's they are just ******* retarded and should sell there cars. That is pathetic. My bolt-on car runs 12.3's. There are people on here in 11's with bot-ons and stock internals. It's not people just posting up bs. If you have a cammed/bolt-on car that isn't running 11.4's-12.1's with a d/a under 2800 either they can't drive, can't cut a decent 60ft or something is wrong. And a h/c/i car running mid 12's should not happen. You should not be running 12.3's with your mods. You have problems I see, but god damn.

Originally Posted by flintwrench69

This is what I read or hear about the 120+ traps but the guys that do are they runnin slicks & skinnies & how much weight reduction? I guarantee theres some weight reduction done. Also guys with 10 bolts & M6 tend to take it easy on the launch, I know I did. These are considerable factors but I will agree 113 trap speed is low for 423 whp.



Lots of factors, good drivers, bad drivers, proper suspension setup, tire selection, not enough track time, granny shifting just to name a few. Not everyone you see at the track will drive their car to its full potential. The OPs time slips 60' times improved so the launch is decent but its possible he's losing mph from granny shifting & lifting off the throttle too much.



I hear ya, one of the reasons I got an M6 car was its a challenge & the fact that the T56 can handle waay more than a 4l60e. Anyone can drive an auto, consistent yes but very boring IMO.

Originally Posted by Mystery Bird

I have Motive 3.73's in there and that is what's staying until the spiders decide to run away, or a pinion looses a molar.

Originally Posted by Camaro9969

I was curious i know you always log your runs at the track ive seen that. What do you use?? HP tuners? I want to pick up somethign to log and tune it just not sure whats a good one out there

Originally Posted by Mystery Bird

No, I have an LT1 so I can only use Datamaster or Freescan.

Originally Posted by 1of625

For the Fair weather racers the DA at your track was
4:54pm ===1766DA
7:54pm===1196DA
9:54pm===981DA

Based on your tracks schedule maybe you to need to be a fair weather racer TOO and go back on October 30th the last Test&Tune your track is having and maybe the temps will be around 48degrees with a DA of around -20 ,,then maybe you'll get into the 11's

Good Luck