Hoping for 11's with New 410's
09-01-2011, 12:21 PM
#41
So ran last night used my shift light and was trapping 114 all night did a 12.30 @114 1.89 60 ft my best of the night i ran with someone in the car did a 1.76 60 7.89 1/8th @93mph!!! Had to jam on the brakes and still got kicked out 13.00 @75mph. So if i stayed in it that could of been the best run. Either way the more seat time the better launches I'm getting. I tried dumping it at 5 grand but it spun like crazy and pulled a 2.0.....so i dropped more air out down to 16psi and dumped it pretty hard around 5 it felt much better. I think its got 12.0s in it at best but we will see...... Not sure the MPH was from the air, shift points, taking some weight out, removing AC belt haha, or all together but its closer. And I don't need to hear what I would run at "your track"
more seat time, youll get it. that mph is good for 11s.
09-02-2011, 09:33 AM
#43
I know what you mean the last time I went to the track I was hot laping my car I had already run three consistant 12.3's in a row and on the forth time around I let out 2lbs of air from my Dr's ,,my launch was alittle better with a 2.020 60ft my 330 was a tenth faster than my previous three 12.3 passes ,,,but when I mashed the clutch pedal down to go to 3rd gear the clutch pedal just stuck to the floor and didn't go into 3rd gear,,,funny thing is from 2nd gear to nuetral I still ran a 13.9 at 72mph coasting down the rest of the track.
Based on my 330ft I would have ran atleast a 12.2,,but the clutch fluid got to hot from hot laping it so many times. So I need to refreshen and bleed my clutch fluid,,before I go back to the track.
Based on my 330ft I would have ran atleast a 12.2,,but the clutch fluid got to hot from hot laping it so many times. So I need to refreshen and bleed my clutch fluid,,before I go back to the track.
Last edited by Camaro9969; 09-02-2011 at 10:37 AM.
09-02-2011, 09:18 PM
#44
114 isn't bad. it still seems kind of low for 423whp. is it possible that the dyno is happy and we're all chasing a unicorn?
around here m6 cammed cars making 400-410whp on a dynojet typically trap 115-118. obviously factors like weight removal and ability to drive fall into place. my friend had a cam only a4 car that went 116 @ full weight on the stock pulley, tb, ls6 intake, etc. that car was strong from the getgo, though.
1of625 - you just need to accept the fact that your setup is slow. something somewhere is amiss. be it the tune, cam timing, etc. i had a full weight bolt-on car that ultimately went 12.0s @ 111+ with a da above 2k'. also, somehow, the 99 m6 car my wife bought on a whim went 8.29 @ 88 with just a lid and weld in flowmaster 80 series. never duplicated the ET again, but it had numerous 87/111 passes at the strip. it was on eibach sportlines, completely stock other than those 3 mods.
around here m6 cammed cars making 400-410whp on a dynojet typically trap 115-118. obviously factors like weight removal and ability to drive fall into place. my friend had a cam only a4 car that went 116 @ full weight on the stock pulley, tb, ls6 intake, etc. that car was strong from the getgo, though.
1of625 - you just need to accept the fact that your setup is slow. something somewhere is amiss. be it the tune, cam timing, etc. i had a full weight bolt-on car that ultimately went 12.0s @ 111+ with a da above 2k'. also, somehow, the 99 m6 car my wife bought on a whim went 8.29 @ 88 with just a lid and weld in flowmaster 80 series. never duplicated the ET again, but it had numerous 87/111 passes at the strip. it was on eibach sportlines, completely stock other than those 3 mods.
09-02-2011, 11:54 PM
#45
114 isn't bad. it still seems kind of low for 423whp. is it possible that the dyno is happy and we're all chasing a unicorn?
around here m6 cammed cars making 400-410whp on a dynojet typically trap 115-118. obviously factors like weight removal and ability to drive fall into place. my friend had a cam only a4 car that went 116 @ full weight on the stock pulley, tb, ls6 intake, etc. that car was strong from the getgo, though.
1of625 - you just need to accept the fact that your setup is slow. something somewhere is amiss. be it the tune, cam timing, etc. i had a full weight bolt-on car that ultimately went 12.0s @ 111+ with a da above 2k'. also, somehow, the 99 m6 car my wife bought on a whim went 8.29 @ 88 with just a lid and weld in flowmaster 80 series. never duplicated the ET again, but it had numerous 87/111 passes at the strip. it was on eibach sportlines, completely stock other than those 3 mods.
around here m6 cammed cars making 400-410whp on a dynojet typically trap 115-118. obviously factors like weight removal and ability to drive fall into place. my friend had a cam only a4 car that went 116 @ full weight on the stock pulley, tb, ls6 intake, etc. that car was strong from the getgo, though.
1of625 - you just need to accept the fact that your setup is slow. something somewhere is amiss. be it the tune, cam timing, etc. i had a full weight bolt-on car that ultimately went 12.0s @ 111+ with a da above 2k'. also, somehow, the 99 m6 car my wife bought on a whim went 8.29 @ 88 with just a lid and weld in flowmaster 80 series. never duplicated the ET again, but it had numerous 87/111 passes at the strip. it was on eibach sportlines, completely stock other than those 3 mods.
09-05-2011, 07:34 PM
#46
no, i didn't. i read the first one and quickly determined you had little knowledge regarding this engine/chassis combo and its performance in the 1/4 mile. if you're happy with your setup and its performance - by all means, let ignorance provide years of bliss.
if i was going to exaggerate or make up numbers for my cars and others i've seen/worked on, i sure as hell wouldn't be scraping up 1-2 mph or 2-3 tenths haha. come on up here to irp. i'm sure you'll pick up that 7 mph you're missing down there in ga.
if i was going to exaggerate or make up numbers for my cars and others i've seen/worked on, i sure as hell wouldn't be scraping up 1-2 mph or 2-3 tenths haha. come on up here to irp. i'm sure you'll pick up that 7 mph you're missing down there in ga.
09-06-2011, 08:26 AM
#47
no, i didn't. i read the first one and quickly determined you had little knowledge regarding this engine/chassis combo and its performance in the 1/4 mile. if you're happy with your setup and its performance - by all means, let ignorance provide years of bliss.
if i was going to exaggerate or make up numbers for my cars and others i've seen/worked on, i sure as hell wouldn't be scraping up 1-2 mph or 2-3 tenths haha. come on up here to irp. i'm sure you'll pick up that 7 mph you're missing down there in ga.
if i was going to exaggerate or make up numbers for my cars and others i've seen/worked on, i sure as hell wouldn't be scraping up 1-2 mph or 2-3 tenths haha. come on up here to irp. i'm sure you'll pick up that 7 mph you're missing down there in ga.
09-06-2011, 10:57 AM
#48
You seemed to be knocking all LS powered cars for some reason. All i stated was my times and i hoped i would be running 11's with my set up. And just got negative things back. Like i stated it was dyno tuned at 397rwhp and like 375tq but then i dynoed it again on a dynojet and it went to 423 so its one of those number haha. But either way in my opinion NOBODY on here has a piece of crap car. They are all GM powered motors and i'm a fan of that. I dont care if your car ran a 14 i still would "like" it I just would say its slow.
09-06-2011, 12:01 PM
#49
For the Fair weather racers the DA at your track was
4:54pm ===1766DA
7:54pm===1196DA
9:54pm===981DA
Based on your tracks schedule maybe you to need to be a fair weather racer TOO and go back on October 30th the last Test&Tune your track is having and maybe the temps will be around 48degrees with a DA of around -20 ,,then maybe you'll get into the 11's
Good Luck
4:54pm ===1766DA
7:54pm===1196DA
9:54pm===981DA
Based on your tracks schedule maybe you to need to be a fair weather racer TOO and go back on October 30th the last Test&Tune your track is having and maybe the temps will be around 48degrees with a DA of around -20 ,,then maybe you'll get into the 11's
Good Luck
The best nights are usually in the -800 to -1500 DA's on fall street nights. You will need to pick which night you go after watching the weather and plugging everything into a DA calculator to find a night with those good DA numbers.
I have bought 2 ls1 cars since spring but havent had them to the track waiting for the decent da's to come which is what I have always done with my 3800 SC FWD cars I have been running the last 4 or 5 years. I am planning to beat my best pb of 12.2 @118 FWD V6 lol.
If we happen to be there on the same night your more than welcome to scan a pass or 2 with my HP tuners BTW
09-06-2011, 12:37 PM
#50
where he is from Mass and close to New England Dragway there is still a lot to be gained in DA's this fall- those DA's are still **** poor for this area , he did very well considering weather.....
The best nights are usually in the -800 to -1500 DA's on fall street nights. You will need to pick which night you go after watching the weather and plugging everything into a DA calculator to find a night with those good DA numbers.
I have bought 2 ls1 cars since spring but havent had them to the track waiting for the decent da's to come which is what I have always done with my 3800 SC FWD cars I have been running the last 4 or 5 years. I am planning to beat my best pb of 12.2 @118 FWD V6 lol.
If we happen to be there on the same night your more than welcome to scan a pass or 2 with my HP tuners BTW
The best nights are usually in the -800 to -1500 DA's on fall street nights. You will need to pick which night you go after watching the weather and plugging everything into a DA calculator to find a night with those good DA numbers.
I have bought 2 ls1 cars since spring but havent had them to the track waiting for the decent da's to come which is what I have always done with my 3800 SC FWD cars I have been running the last 4 or 5 years. I am planning to beat my best pb of 12.2 @118 FWD V6 lol.
If we happen to be there on the same night your more than welcome to scan a pass or 2 with my HP tuners BTW
09-07-2011, 12:47 AM
#51
I usually run at LVD (Lebanon Valley) but i could make the trip to New England Dragway its about 2.5 to get there but that would be awesome if i could scan a pass id really appreciate it. 12.2 FWD V6 thats awesome is it a GTP?? Ya i hope to hit 11's with just this i'll be so pumped. I have Nitrous sitting in the garage but didnt want to use it. And next year i have a Turbo so i like the whole NA 11 haha
09-07-2011, 01:07 AM
#52
Lol at heads cam cars running 12s in any conditions under 5000+da.
1of625, ask damian himself if those are average numbers.
Or hell, you can take a ride in my car when I come down to atl to get it tuned.. And it isn't even an aggressive head/cal setup..226 cam and hand ported 317s, stock ls6 intake. Shooting for 11.0@123 or so, 3500#.
Funny thread.
1of625, ask damian himself if those are average numbers.
Or hell, you can take a ride in my car when I come down to atl to get it tuned.. And it isn't even an aggressive head/cal setup..226 cam and hand ported 317s, stock ls6 intake. Shooting for 11.0@123 or so, 3500#.
Funny thread.
09-07-2011, 02:16 PM
#54
I'm sorry, I didn't know we were talking cars that were capable of low to mid 11s with monkeys behind the wheel that cut 2.5 short times. My buddies afr heads fast intake cam full bolt ons 01 ws6 runs mid 8s@91 cause he cant drive it. Car should run mid 7s..
Any half *** set up cam car with supporting mods and a decent driver with traction shouod easily run 11s. Argue that with a monkey behind the wheel it won't hit 11s, Ill agree.. Argue that with a respectable driver it wont hit 11s, ill laugh at you.
I have a baby 226 cam hand ported 317s and supporting mods full weight..2 hours north of you this time of year I run 7.3s@94 with 1.50-1.52 short times barely spinning. My buddies 98 full weight trans am with lid full exhaust converter and a 228r ran 11.7s in Florida two months ago. Stock ls1 intake with 273 gears.
Arguing that with a horrible driver they don't run xxx ets is pointless because everyone agrees. Arguing that that car shouldnt run those times, lol. you actually said forum times are exaggerated, ill show you my car running faster times than listed In my sig.
Any half *** set up cam car with supporting mods and a decent driver with traction shouod easily run 11s. Argue that with a monkey behind the wheel it won't hit 11s, Ill agree.. Argue that with a respectable driver it wont hit 11s, ill laugh at you.
I have a baby 226 cam hand ported 317s and supporting mods full weight..2 hours north of you this time of year I run 7.3s@94 with 1.50-1.52 short times barely spinning. My buddies 98 full weight trans am with lid full exhaust converter and a 228r ran 11.7s in Florida two months ago. Stock ls1 intake with 273 gears.
Arguing that with a horrible driver they don't run xxx ets is pointless because everyone agrees. Arguing that that car shouldnt run those times, lol. you actually said forum times are exaggerated, ill show you my car running faster times than listed In my sig.
09-08-2011, 10:08 AM
#55
I have to agree with you there.........there is NO comparison at all when you do times with an auto or a m6 its night and day not to mention theres no driver error. or well there shouldnt be!!!
Last edited by Camaro9969; 09-08-2011 at 11:31 AM.
09-08-2011, 02:26 PM
#56
I would say my times are on par, or above a little. M6 cars trap higher than A4s, I make a whopping 370Rwhp.
If your coming down to see Damian aka Josh you must have made some changes to your set up ,,so of course your going to be running faster than your sig along with alot cooler weather unless your going back to original parts.
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And since you brought up monkey's ,,any monkey can drive a auto no skill is needed.
It is consistent, I like the track.... Auto.
Lastly Send me a PM and let me know when your coming to Commerce and i'll bring my piece of shiit car and my pet monkey to help get me down the track
Nice wheels by the way sometimes I think about selling my C5 magnesiums to buy some mesh wheels.
I love the way they look however!!
09-08-2011, 07:42 PM
#58
m6 cars are harder to launch and drive, but with a *PROPER setup they will come very close to matching a stalled a4s ET typically with a couple more mph. this is only arguable in near stock trim as in both cars on a stock 10 bolt and if the auto has a respectable verter.
09-09-2011, 01:03 AM
#59
Quickest so far is 1.50.. Consistent 1.50-1.52.
However, I was spinning just a tad that night and had a nitrous tune on the car.
With the suspension fixed, little more power, motor tune, and same or better air which will be easy since it was hot that night..1.4 is inevitable, I would love some 1.46-.47s!!
09-17-2011, 07:05 PM
#60
Updated time Slip. Just launched it hard a few runs did a 12.07. I think i'll hit that mark of 11.99 and not because of DA this was the best 60 ive had with this set up By far!! oh and i weighed it at 3610
Last edited by Camaro9969; 09-18-2011 at 08:39 AM.