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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 12:49 AM
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Well, after owning a Mustang for years, I finally have seen the light. Bought my 1st LS1 camaro, And am now officially in the 12 sec club. Ran 12.97@108. Mods are as listed.

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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 02:05 AM
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Very solid. 02's are strong motors for sure. Throw in some gears and a converter and you'll be in the low-mid 12s.
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 07:34 AM
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Congratulations! Was it cheaper to get 12s for you in the Camaro than in the Mustangs?
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Duffster
Congratulations! Was it cheaper to get 12s for you in the Camaro than in the Mustangs?
Very.

My Mustang:

1996 Mustang GT, 4.6L 281cid 2V, Automatic, 3660 lbs with me in it.

Bone stock 16.2@88MPH, 3.08 gears.

'00 4.6 PI Headswap
Full exhaust minus manifolds
3.73's
Handheld computer tune
Comp 262 cams

14.2@95

Estimated cost of MOD's: $2000.00

Camaro:

2000 Z28, A4, 2.73's, 5.7L 346cid, 3620 lbs with me in it.

Stock cept for exhaust cutout lid 13.8@102

'02 T/A Motor
SLP Lid
Gutted Cats
HP Tuners custom tune

Estimated cost of MOD's: $460.00 - this one's kinda tricky, as the T/A motor cost $3000.00, but I was running 13.4's with the stock motor I only wanted the T/A motor because of the better rod bolts, better intake and better casting 241 heads. Although on the other hand it probably wouldn't have made 12's with the stock motor because of the ls1 intake.

12.97@108.5

The Camaro hands down was wayyyy faster from the start. I owned both of the cars for about a month before I sold the Mustang, and racing them against each other was like 5-8 carlengths diff. The Camaro pulled hard on the stang up top.

I have caught a lot of hell both on stangnet and here about the Mustang being slow for what it had done. I had raced a lot of PI Mustangs from around here, and beat them, stick or auto. So it didn't quite make sense, i knew the car ran good. Then most realized that my usual D/A at our track is around 3500FT, so the times made more sense.

The LS1 is just an animal, period. If I could do it all over again, i'd start with the LS1.

The funny thing is I work at a Ford Dealership, so you can imagine how much i get poked at! It's all good tho, I own a Ford pickup and woudn't trade that for anything.

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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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While we're on the subject, does anyone know where I can find a cool 12 sec. club vinyl sticker for the rear window? The only ones I can find are for Vettes or Harley's?
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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never seen them, but I'm sure for 10-15 bucks at any vinyl shop, you can get a custom one. . .
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Default Hey Mikeg

I Have Pretty Much Same Stuff You Have. Before Tune Ran A 12.53. After Tune Ran A 12.50. Any Suggestions?? I Think My Shift Point Is To High..
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I Have Pretty Much Same Stuff You Have. Before Tune Ran A 12.53. After Tune Ran A 12.50. Any Suggestions?? I Think My Shift Point Is To High..
My biggest gain was from turning off Torque Management. I have the HP tuners software. The factory has like 30% torque reduction during shifts. Also, I bumped my timing 3 degrees pretty much all around. Also, I leaned mine out to somewhere around 12.7:1 i believe, factory was like 11 something. My shift points are at 6200.
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Also got the car painted, check the pics on this thread if you don't want to go thru my MySpace.

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Originally Posted by MikeG
Very solid. 02's are strong motors for sure. Throw in some gears and a converter and you'll be in the low-mid 12s.
I really really want to go faster, but I also don't want to kill the car's streetability as far as launching goes. Right now it dead hooks if you don't stall it when launching. I really want a converter, and I know it will produce a hella gain, but then I have to buy slicks and a loop.

Probably going to get a cam and full exhaust 1st.
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