Advanced Engineering Tech For the more hardcore LS1TECH residents

Unusual OHC Chevy?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 18, 2010 | 10:47 PM
  #1  
Sbertolone's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
From: Oakland County MI
Default Unusual OHC Chevy?

I was having a head discussion with my buddy and he was talking about making some kind of ohc setup without tradition type valves but more of a rotating setup, I told him I had seen this done a while back and it was a small block chevy with a rotating sphere with a hole cut in it, I looked on google for a few hours but couldnt find anything, does anybody remember this or have a link for it?
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2010 | 09:10 AM
  #2  
Beau@SDPC's Avatar
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,262
Likes: 2
From: Lubbock, TX
Default

A quick google search for rotary valve engine comes up with this.
http://www.coatesengine.com/
but its been disproven over and over. The animations are nice for a good laugh.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:05 AM
  #3  
battousai's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
Default

wtf? that is very unusual. and probably horribly inefficient.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:17 AM
  #4  
Beau@SDPC's Avatar
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,262
Likes: 2
From: Lubbock, TX
Default

There are so many different designs of engines, valvetrain, etc that you will know soon enough what is a good and feasible idea. Their names will be known lol.

Some are just purely a money pit.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 12:52 PM
  #5  
badmatt's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default

Aardema development. does a SOHC for the SBC and Pete has done some other cool things.

http://www.aardemasohc.net/index_files/Page313.htm

Last edited by badmatt; Aug 22, 2010 at 12:57 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:22 AM
  #6  
chuntington101's Avatar
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,866
Likes: 4
Default

i think Neslon racing engines is coming out with a 32valve SBC based engine. Should be pretty intresting watching it spin to 8K!!!

Chris.
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2010 | 07:41 PM
  #7  
Domesticated Euro's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, Fl
Default

I actually read all about Coats and his rotary valve engines. They were EXTREMELY efficient. He did a test on a Ford 302 motor that dynoed at 250 hp having been converted with his heads using the same carb and intake made over 450hp and was even more fuel efficient too! Having the rotary valves eliminates the need for high pressure valve springs to keep from valve float on higher lift cams at higher engine speeds. The main friction in an engine is from the valve springs. He had test engines running at over 14,000 rpm still making power! The only thing holding them back was the rotating assembly.

I got this information from Engine Masters Magazine back in 2000-2002 (cant remember exactly). Since then I have looked him up and I believe somebody bought him out (oil companies?) and he now uses his technology in highly efficient generator motors in Canada.
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2010 | 10:36 PM
  #8  
OKcruising's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
From: Dallas
Default

I file this one under the skeptical-borderline-impractical.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Sep 18, 2010 | 01:30 AM
  #9  
crazydavez28's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
From: Hutchinson,KS
Default

the coates engine; i imagine a system like that would not handle much wear before it started leaking. but until then...

really though, there is no poppet valve in the middle of the air stream, no valve harmonics, only unimpeded airflow. rpm is only limited by material strength and EFI capabilities. i wish they made commercially available heads for my LT1 i'd go kill some vettes
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2010 | 09:43 AM
  #10  
OKcruising's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
From: Dallas
Default

You'd have harmonics. Since they are rotating on pulses and that they have to withstand cylinder pressure that would exert a force upward on a specific rotating globe thingy ultimately leading to an entire flexing situation.

Material properties would be another issue. How to keep super close tolerances of aluminum head with steel rotating globe thingy in the face of high pressure, contaminants, and fluctuating temperatures.

I could see it working for a specific industrial engine scenarios though.
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2010 | 10:19 AM
  #11  
Domesticated Euro's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, Fl
Default

Thats why it took him 15 years to develop. He had problems with sealing, but now he uses a carbon ceramic seal around the chambers. Who knows? It could work, and be reliable! I would love to see this become available to the public. Even if it doesnt have longevity, it could still be used for some crazy power in a drag car. They rebuild them after every race anyways!
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:23 AM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE