ITB's for LS engines
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Sorry guys, updates are slow right now. I have a LOT going on. DBW Fiber is up my butt about making molds right now, it will come but things are a little slow right now.
I still need a set of cathedral port heads to fit up with and get measurements. Unported and busted would be fine, as all I need is a clean cylinder head mating surface and intake surfaces. I am also game for any damaged square port heads. Anything that will bolt up to a LS block, I want to make these fit them.
I still need a set of cathedral port heads to fit up with and get measurements. Unported and busted would be fine, as all I need is a clean cylinder head mating surface and intake surfaces. I am also game for any damaged square port heads. Anything that will bolt up to a LS block, I want to make these fit them.
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I hope to be able to, it will just make the project take a little more time. I have to find low overhead ways to prototype them out and to get the adapter flanges CAD'ed out and converted to a .dxf format for machining. I really want to find a way to make ITB's an affordable option for everybody.
I think ITB setups should cost less than a turbo setup and be easy to use and adjust. Why spend more money on something that gives you less power? Down with that noise I say!! ITB's for ALL!!!
Sidenote: I plan on making these boost friendly for those that choose to do both!
I think ITB setups should cost less than a turbo setup and be easy to use and adjust. Why spend more money on something that gives you less power? Down with that noise I say!! ITB's for ALL!!!
Sidenote: I plan on making these boost friendly for those that choose to do both!
When I say price point, I'm not squabling over $2400 vs $2000, but it's when guys say $2000, but come in at $3500 when it goes to production that causes grief.
Either way I hope to see this move forward. Merry Christmas and Happy New Years and here's to hoping we see these in the near future.
Either way I hope to see this move forward. Merry Christmas and Happy New Years and here's to hoping we see these in the near future.
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I'd be happy with $3500 even, if it was a solid quality piece. The Harrops are $5500 now, with the Kinslers about the same.
I have a 454 ls7 being built and I want to do itbs on it like I did with my 468.
I paid over $4500 for my Harrop, and I don't regret it one bit. I love it. I plan on every NA motor I own from here on out to have an itb.
I have a 454 ls7 being built and I want to do itbs on it like I did with my 468.
I paid over $4500 for my Harrop, and I don't regret it one bit. I love it. I plan on every NA motor I own from here on out to have an itb.
Bump. I wish I would have seen this sooner, but ohh well! I'm using a sheet-metal Hogans Racing intake and Inglese TB's for my L92 setup. I'll have about 5K into mine before any visual modifications, and that's wo/ injectors, billet stacks, and filter covers.
Good luck man!
Good luck man!
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I have set a goal for this project. I would like to have a working prototype by July 2011.
I may have to do a group buy in order to get them put into production, but they will be made. I will have to machine the first base plates but I have found a source to formcast the base plates so that there is not a lot of machine time in making the ports. By casting the plates and then coming back and machining the surfaces and drilling/tapping the holes will save lots and lots of machining and will ultimately drive the price down.
I may also make other components out of cast material to shave cost and make manufacturing easier, as well as make it better for high volume if need be.
I will need probably 8-10 people to buy the setup at first so that production can happen. Do you guys think I should have any trouble finding candidates? The price mark looks to be under $3k and most likely in the $2.5k range. I wanted them to be cheaper, and they may very well be. The larges deciding factor of price will be the cost of the base plates and the cost of getting the throttle shafts Wire EDM'ed out.
I may have to do a group buy in order to get them put into production, but they will be made. I will have to machine the first base plates but I have found a source to formcast the base plates so that there is not a lot of machine time in making the ports. By casting the plates and then coming back and machining the surfaces and drilling/tapping the holes will save lots and lots of machining and will ultimately drive the price down.
I may also make other components out of cast material to shave cost and make manufacturing easier, as well as make it better for high volume if need be.
I will need probably 8-10 people to buy the setup at first so that production can happen. Do you guys think I should have any trouble finding candidates? The price mark looks to be under $3k and most likely in the $2.5k range. I wanted them to be cheaper, and they may very well be. The larges deciding factor of price will be the cost of the base plates and the cost of getting the throttle shafts Wire EDM'ed out.
I think I know two guys at least that are very interested to see how this develops. I imagine a proto will be done first so people can see what they will be advancing $$$ for and make their own decision as to the viability on thier respective builds.
I have set a goal for this project. I would like to have a working prototype by July 2011.
I may have to do a group buy in order to get them put into production, but they will be made. I will have to machine the first base plates but I have found a source to formcast the base plates so that there is not a lot of machine time in making the ports. By casting the plates and then coming back and machining the surfaces and drilling/tapping the holes will save lots and lots of machining and will ultimately drive the price down.
I may also make other components out of cast material to shave cost and make manufacturing easier, as well as make it better for high volume if need be.
I will need probably 8-10 people to buy the setup at first so that production can happen. Do you guys think I should have any trouble finding candidates? The price mark looks to be under $3k and most likely in the $2.5k range. I wanted them to be cheaper, and they may very well be. The larges deciding factor of price will be the cost of the base plates and the cost of getting the throttle shafts Wire EDM'ed out.
I may have to do a group buy in order to get them put into production, but they will be made. I will have to machine the first base plates but I have found a source to formcast the base plates so that there is not a lot of machine time in making the ports. By casting the plates and then coming back and machining the surfaces and drilling/tapping the holes will save lots and lots of machining and will ultimately drive the price down.
I may also make other components out of cast material to shave cost and make manufacturing easier, as well as make it better for high volume if need be.
I will need probably 8-10 people to buy the setup at first so that production can happen. Do you guys think I should have any trouble finding candidates? The price mark looks to be under $3k and most likely in the $2.5k range. I wanted them to be cheaper, and they may very well be. The larges deciding factor of price will be the cost of the base plates and the cost of getting the throttle shafts Wire EDM'ed out.
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A WORKING prototype would be a given fellas.
I am actually kinda anxious to get this project moving forward. I wish I could hurry the process but it is only going to go as fast as my personal finances allow along with adequate time to do it. Work has me strapped right now and to top things off, I may have just volunteered myself to running the financial end of the company I work for. Hopefully everything will come together nicely by the end of summer.
I am actually kinda anxious to get this project moving forward. I wish I could hurry the process but it is only going to go as fast as my personal finances allow along with adequate time to do it. Work has me strapped right now and to top things off, I may have just volunteered myself to running the financial end of the company I work for. Hopefully everything will come together nicely by the end of summer.
Here's a neet idea, a shared plenum built into the botton of a ITB setup so you will have a nice vaccum reference for brakes and MAP sensor...
http://www.mooregoodink.com/news/?p=2195
http://www.mooregoodink.com/news/?p=2195
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Let's assume that everything goes just cherry and you have a prototype and get 10+ orders at $2,500 each. Where are you planning on marketing these longer term than that? Are you putting up a site, already have one, or selling drop ship through third parties?
Just wondering, because by July I will not have an extra $2,500. I could, but I plan for life not going 100% my way so I have to assume I will need more time.
That said, will there be more than the initial run made if it seems to be fiscally viable or is this a short run temporary item?
Just wondering, because by July I will not have an extra $2,500. I could, but I plan for life not going 100% my way so I have to assume I will need more time.
That said, will there be more than the initial run made if it seems to be fiscally viable or is this a short run temporary item?