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Old 07-11-2011, 04:54 PM
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$6405. That's insane.
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Originally Posted by Danny
$6405. That's insane.
Agreed. Altho not quite as high priced, people will pay an unbelievabely unneccessary amount for a sheetmetal intake such as Hogan's, which mostly goes towards nice aluminum polish and weld beads, not remotely worth it IMO.
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7 months and no pics.....what a jip.
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No updates?? In the time since this thread was started, I found/MADE time to handle the following:
  • Go to SEMA
  • My flexplate blew up on the drive out to SEMA, 30 minutes away from Vegas
  • Had the car towed to my parents place 100 miles away from my apartment, ended up not going to SEMA
  • Only worked on it every other weekend, due to the 100 mile one-way distance, with a DD getting 16MPG highway
  • Purchased/built all of the remaining tools necessary to do an engine/trans pull/replace w/o a lift
  • Pulled the motor/transmission
  • Disassembled the motor down to the bare block
  • Brought the bare block 100 miles back with me to the apartment
  • Purchased all of the forged components necessary to rebuild the block
  • Had the pistons coated by a local reputable aerospace coatings company
  • Brought the block to a machine shop for initial cleanup/honing
  • Paid a more reputable shop to properly assemble the shortblock
  • Two months later it was complete (delays with the shop and my ordering/coating parts).
  • Got a base tune put on the PCM
  • Brought the shortblock 100 miles back to rejoin the car
  • Turned the shortblock into a longblock
  • Installed the longblock and transmission into the car
  • Bled the brakes, changed all the fluids, and got the car running
  • Retuned the car with a wideband and a couple of days of street tuning
  • Had the transmission fail
  • Found a built transmission 80 miles away
  • Drove 160 miles round trip to pick up the built transmission
  • Drove 50 miles to pick up the stock torque converter
  • Installed the built transmission
  • Now fixing other various quirks due to the car being down for 6 months and undergoing a new forged/built setup
  • imagine JUST the fuel cost of all of that, considering my DD was a 4.0L Jeep that got probably 16MPG highway.
  • now realize that a Harrop costs the same amount of money as what I spent on the forged motor/built trans project

...and I still haven't seen pics of this ITB setup, or a sketch... or anything...

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Old 07-15-2011, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ZexGX
No updates?? In the time since this thread was started, I found/MADE time to handle the following:
  • Go to SEMA
  • My flexplate blew up on the drive out to SEMA, 30 minutes away from Vegas
  • Had the car towed to my parents place 100 miles away from my apartment, ended up not going to SEMA
  • Only worked on it every other weekend, due to the 100 mile one-way distance, with a DD getting 16MPG highway
  • Purchased/built all of the remaining tools necessary to do an engine/trans pull/replace w/o a lift
  • Pulled the motor/transmission
  • Disassembled the motor down to the bare block
  • Brought the bare block 100 miles back with me to the apartment
  • Purchased all of the forged components necessary to rebuild the block
  • Had the pistons coated by a local reputable aerospace coatings company
  • Brought the block to a machine shop for initial cleanup/honing
  • Paid a more reputable shop to properly assemble the shortblock
  • Two months later it was complete (delays with the shop and my ordering/coating parts).
  • Got a base tune put on the PCM
  • Brought the shortblock 100 miles back to rejoin the car
  • Turned the shortblock into a longblock
  • Installed the longblock and transmission into the car
  • Bled the brakes, changed all the fluids, and got the car running
  • Retuned the car with a wideband and a couple of days of street tuning
  • Had the transmission fail
  • Found a built transmission 80 miles away
  • Drove 160 miles round trip to pick up the built transmission
  • Drove 50 miles to pick up the stock torque converter
  • Installed the built transmission
  • Now fixing other various quirks due to the car being down for 6 months and undergoing a new forged/built setup
  • imagine JUST the fuel cost of all of that, considering my DD was a 4.0L Jeep that got probably 16MPG highway.
  • now realize that a Harrop costs the same amount of money as what I spent on the forged motor/built trans project

...and I still haven't seen pics of this ITB setup, or a sketch... or anything...
I wish I had that much progress on my car in the last 7 months.
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Originally Posted by frojoe
I wish I had that much progress on my car in the last 7 months.
At one point I was pretty much dying from a combination of bronchitis, the flu, and asthma. On a sick day (a week before I had to go to the ER), barely being able to stand, I brought the motor from my apartment to the motor builder and unloaded it at the motor builders shop. I place a lot of priority on car stuff, I guess. But this thread is just a tease. However, I had a lot of motivation: my Jeep was a money/gas-guzzling POS. Whereas I am unsure of how much motivation the OP has.

Edit: he hasn't logged into LS1tech since February...

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Old 07-23-2011, 04:47 PM
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WOW where are the ITBs ????
and what is the cost of all this hard work ???
there are a lot off ITBs out there from $3200-6000 to fit your engine
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Originally Posted by frojoe
Agreed. Altho not quite as high priced, people will pay an unbelievabely unneccessary amount for a sheetmetal intake such as Hogan's, which mostly goes towards nice aluminum polish and weld beads, not remotely worth it IMO.
Yep...crazy. Its unfortunately a necessary evil in optimizing a build. For my build, FAST would work but would choke the cubes....Marcella's intake was on deck but couldn't build a big enough Tbody that would work on the street - idle and WOT only . Enter Kinsler.....twice what the Marcella intake was but should (better!) resolve the issues in street manners and feeding the beast. Dyno #'s in a couple weeks
Old 07-24-2011, 02:25 PM
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Not familiar with Kinsler. My experience is limited to Harrop and Jenvey. Harrop is the only option for DBW right now. Harrop has a common plenum, and provisions for an IAC and MAP sensor common to all ports.

Jenvey is 8 seperate throttle bodies and ports. No common plenum. Jenvey, with no common plenum, has no IAC (remember this is cable, not DBW) and also, no real provision for a MAP sensor. So, it's MAP in one port, or Alpha N.

Just sayin........



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