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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Thanks for commenting guys. Shiz are you running stock pcm or BS3? If BS3 what is your crank angle?
no problem wed like to help more but we just have not seen some of these problems. But ill admit having jeff 5 minutes from me and were 10 minutes from the track has cut my learning curve way down.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:57 AM
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Most guys are way to lean and have way to much timing. Guys just don't get that timing without hp is worthless. also guys keep tuning these cars on dynojets with 1400-2000lb rollers .....I don't know any 2000 lb fbodys. LOL.

IF you free spin a 1400 lb roller and tune it it might like 28* on a 300 shot but put a 3400lb load on the car and it will detonate its @ss off!
so how much timing should I pull on a 300shot? Where should my air/fuel ratio be? The motor runs on pump gas and the dedicated fuel system c16 or what ever you recommend. I dont want to be changing head gaskets all the time. I am going to try and hook a 300shot off the brake.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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so how much timing should I pull on a 300shot? Where should my air/fuel ratio be? The motor runs on pump gas and the dedicated fuel system c16 or what ever you recommend. I dont want to be changing head gaskets all the time. I am going to try and hook a 300shot off the brake.
Id start at 15* dependign on where it makes power on the motor and 10.5 then work up not down. LOL that way once it stops going faster theres no need for more timing or less fuel
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ShiznityZ28
Id start at 15* dependign on where it makes power on the motor and 10.5 then work up not down. LOL that way once it stops going faster theres no need for more timing or less fuel
thats about what I thought. I was going to start at 14*
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10.5 Af?
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
10.5 Af?
Yes...
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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10.5 Af?
YES. On most 300 hp nitrous cars theres probably 15 hp between 10.5 and 11.5. in my opinion a little extra fuel is a good thing for exhaust temps. but thats within a limit. i said start at 10.5 then you can go 3-5% AT A TIME UNTIL IT STOPS PICKING UP HP. we normally run it .2 lricher and a hair more timing down low and have it smoothly fall off . that helps flash the convertor.

Look at it this way. if a motor car likes 12.5(where mine likes it). and nitrous wants 9.0 if you car makes 400 on the motor and 300 more on the nitrous. that would be ~11.5 in a perfect world. but the diff from 10.5- 11.5 is probably 20 rwhp. so we would start at 10.5 then keep mooving up until its a neglagable gain. id guess 10.8-10.9. then with the lowest timing that makes the most hp you would be giving up 20hp on a 800 rwhp car but the heads are gona stay down and it wount mind when its 90deg in the summer.

mut thats just my opinion. im sure some tunning "GURU" will chime in and tell me im wrong and i don't know **** but it works for me.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ShiznityZ28
YES.

mut thats just my opinion. im sure some tunning "GURU" will chime in and tell me im wrong and i don't know **** but it works for me.

Your right man... most start to high and that blows **** up.....
From low to high like you said.....

Makes perfect since to me...
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
10.5 Af?
Yes John thats A/F

Shiz and ATV gave me chit for leaving the tuneups "soft" for years until theyve seen everyone else grenade stuff trying to do less with more. I always had to tell them Id put the timing in it at the track and lean on it harder there, pull the laptop out surf the web for a minute and tunes all done!
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GrannySShifting
Yes John thats A/F

Shiz and ATV gave me chit for leaving the tuneups "soft" for years until theyve seen everyone else grenade stuff trying to do less with more. I always had to tell them Id put the timing in it at the track and lean on it harder there, pull the laptop out surf the web for a minute and tunes all done!

Your gay
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See how gay it is when you turn the DP in the next couple weeks and I leave 20 degrees in it and let er eat!
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Originally Posted by GrannySShifting
See how gay it is when you turn the DP in the next couple weeks and I leave 20 degrees in it and let er eat!

Next couple of weeks my ***. we will be dynoing it sat or sun and racing next weekend.

20* and my junk will pop on the dry shot alone


I'll kill you and bury you under the dyno !!
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Next couple of weeks my ***. we will be dynoing it sat or sun and racing next weekend.

20* and my junk will pop on the dry shot alone


I'll kill you and bury you under the dyno !!
No bury him in the dyno hole and we will put the dyno at my house. You getting off early so we can plumb that DP?
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Sent you a PM shiz.
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