chrysler kid

iTrader: (14)

my instructions in the kit say to cut holes for the wires, you need that cap

SparkyJJO

iTrader: (11)

K I'll do that. But it's not going to be very watertight by the time I make the holes big enough to stick those fat HID plugs through.

VIP1

You should apply some silicone to the new cut opening to seal it to the wires.

SparkyJJO

iTrader: (11)

^^ good idea, didn't think of that.

VIP1

Do you have any output/wall shots with HID?

VIP1

zfastss's setup using TSX projectors mounted inside the stock housings:
http://home.comcast.net/~azafrin/04%...fit%20into.pdf

chrysler kid

iTrader: (14)

well, i should have said, how would you compare the vision of road difference switching from hids in a stock headlight housing, and a h3 kit like sparky has. besides a nice cutoff and less glare what sort of distance or advantages are you gaining

SparkyJJO

iTrader: (11)

My current projectors are H1, not H3. The other style projector is H3 and that is a narrower beam. Still worked OK just wasn't good for winter driving in snowstorms so I wanted a brighter, wider beam. That's why I switched.

I need to post the other H3 projector headlights for sale. Just haven't yet since I can't get out to ship them right now (car in the shop).

VIP1

A true HID setup will have a brighter, wider, further reaching beam.

HID projector comparison pics:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46508
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46182

Compare those pics to any halogen projector pics around (even those with HID kits) and you'll see that the HID projectors have better output.

Those newer H1 projectors are definitely better than the older H3 projectors. The squirrel finders are a bit big though. H3 is a fog/aux bulb, not a headlight bulb. Its stupid that those ebay manufacturers are basically using fog light projectors in their headlights. H1 is typically a high beam bulb, but is also often used in ebay headlight projectors. H1 projectors often have decent output with halogen bulbs but mixed results with HID. What I don't get is why those ebay manufacturers don't use H7 projectors. H7 projectors have better output and often respond well to HID . Not always, but often. Still not as good as a real HID projector but better than most other Halogen projectors.

swisscheese

bought the same projectors
here are some before and after pics

stock reflectors, stock bulbs:



Projectors, H1 bulb that came with the kit:



I changed the bulb to some Phillips ones. the output is about the same, the light is a tad whiter
The leds are hooked up to the headlamps for now and the halos will be connected to a "hot in run"-wire with a switch between.

Also had to fight the gap on the passenger side.

SunsetOrangeZ

iTrader: (10)

So I just installed an HID kit into my projectors, and I gotta say the squirrel finders are way too bright. When I am driving around town it's like I have a spot light on everyone's house. It is way too much.

Has anyone pulled the housings apart to fill in the squirrel finder's hole. When I look inside the housing I cannot see any hole that would allow this amount of light through. Unless it is just a shitty housing period and the light that I am seeing is not something I will be able to fix?

I'm gonna take these things out this Sunday and take a look. Just letting everyone know.
One a side note the beam pattern, and cut off was not affected by the HID's. And the output under the cut off is phenominal.

VIP1

The squirrel finder is a hole in the cut-off shield. You should be able to see it if you look through the bulb hole in the back of the housing.

SparkyJJO

iTrader: (11)

I can't seem to find the squirrelfinder hole.

Mine are bright too but don't light up everyone's houses. They do a good job at lighting up signs and they do throw a haze of light beyond the cutoff on the road directly in front of the car but that's about it.

Shockwave179

iTrader: (7)

So you have the newest style projectors?

Did you ever post pics of the cutoff / beam etc. ?

SparkyJJO

iTrader: (11)

They're on the previous page

Not the best pics and bear in mind the note at the beginning of the page about my front end being a little off. Car was hit by a deer on the driver side before I owned it so things are a little tweaked (never was to a shop to get properly fixed). I think that is why the driver side has a little bit of a downward slope to the cutoff. You can see the squirrelfinder but it is directly in the center and doesn't light up anybody's house when I'm driving - unless of course I'm shining my headlights straight at the house

VIP1

In which case that light above the cut-off might be a reflection off the chrome area of the housing in front of the projector. The only way to fix that would be to paint that area flat black. Preferably with a high temp paint.

aerojt

iTrader: (4)

I have a set of projectors I just bought that use the H3s - Whats everyones opinion on getting H3 HIDs for it? I really like the projector quality, just the H3 is not the brightest...

SparkyJJO

iTrader: (11)

If they are the projectors I am thinking of, HIDs are a must.

aerojt

iTrader: (4)

Well they are letting me return them if I can't get them to improve. Here are two other options, what do you all think?

This first link uses stock bulbs, I don't really mind, the stock light output was fine for me. I just wanted new, clear housings that weren't expensive like OEM ones. Plus the black housings look better I think.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-02...spagenameZWDVW

Second link is same thing with HID and is cheaper, is it junk HID??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=

Thanks!

VIP1

From the two options you posted:

Option 1: I'm really surprised they are using the stock 9005/9006 bulbs in there. I would really like to see that projector's output. It should be much better than the H3 projectors they've been using. You can also mount a 9005 bulb into the projector (with slight modification to the bulb base) for better output (since 9005 bulb has higher output than 9006 bulb). 9005/9006 projectors often have decent output and often do well with HID. Each one is a bit different though and your results may vary.

Option 2: This one is a wild card. That is most-likely still a Halogen Projector with a re-based HID kit. The questions becomes: What was the original Halogen bulb?


It would be nice if they used H7 or H9 or D2S projectors instead.
* Many newer H7 projectors (newer Mazdas come to mind) handle HID quite well.
* H9 has the highest stock wattage (65watt) output of any current Halogen bulb (2000 lumen @12V, 2333 lumen @ 14V).
* D2S is an actual HID bulb part number and not a re-based unit. A D2S HID projector will have better output than any Halogen projector.


Here is an excerpt from Sylvania's bulb listing:
http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProd...logenProducts/

9005 (65w) -- 1700 lumen @ 12V (1983 lumen @ 14V)
9006 (55w) -- 1000 lumen @ 12V (1167 lumen @ 14V)
H9 (65w) ----- 2000 lumen @ 12V (2333 lumen @ 14V)
H7 (55w) ----- 1350 lumen @ 12V (1575 lumen @ 14V)
H3 (55w) ----- 1310 lumen @ 12V (1528 lumen @ 14V)
H1 (55w) ----- 1410 lumen @ 12V (1645 lumen @ 14V)

Of that list, the 9005 & H9 are the brightest.

So.... if you had to choose between only those two options I'd say go with Option 1 unless Option 2 uses a 9005/9006 or H7 or H9 bulb (I doubt its a real HID projector, but if it is then D2S). Also, Option 2's HID color output only goes as low as 6000K. 4000-5000K would be better. You can get a HID kit from DDM Tuning for a reasonable price.