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Old May 12, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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I have a 99' z28 with low mileage, but pretty weathered headlights. They are stock, and I've tried wet sanding them thoroughly and appropriately, but had no success. I got fed up and decided to buy a pair on projector headlights ( I know...) because I feel like it would make my black car look even meaner. Since I am new to owning a camaro, I was wondering how to remove the headlight assembly. Also, the signal lights right under the headlights I may also replace, so if anyone knows how to remove them please let me know.

Im looking into these combination:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=140316535124
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:39 AM
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Headlight removal is "easy" - put it in quotes because it can fight you a little. One small bolt near the top center of the headlight on the back, then it slides toward the center of the car and pops out.

Signal lights have three bolts, two on the rear of the light and one on the bottom. The hardest part about getting them out is getting the corners of the light to clear the bumper. You'll probably fight with them for a while in different angles and it will always catch on something, then you'll try one way you tried a million times already and it will suddenly just slide right out.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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thanks for the help I was able to find the bolts and it does seem pretty easy. Now should I get black projectors with black signal lights or chrome projectors and keep my orange signal lights..
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Old May 13, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Yeah just did my corners about two weeks ago, my passengers side factory lights were broken, but lodged in so you couldn't tell. Ultimately I had to take some bolts off the fender to get that damn light in, just would not go any other way. Even after doing that and fixing the halo headlight (somebody rigged them up with electrical tape only, I went in and soldered and insulated), ended up only taking 4 hours. Sounds like a long time, but when you factor in a trip to the store to pickup replacement bulbs, and my bud's disorganized garage, it actually went pretty quick. Oh the new corners are smoked, along with my led brake light. Had some side markers but they were DOA. Hooked them to the battery and nothing.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 02:12 PM
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yea I just tried wet sanding with 2000 grit and it still looks like absolute crap. Im definitely going for new headlights now...do you have any problems with leaking or condensation on your aftermarket ones?

Actually...if anyone can give me a suggestion on what headlights to get for a reasonable price id appreciate it. Im not really into ricer projector headlights, but I dont mind these
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-02...3A1|240%3A1318

Since my car is black, I feel like it would look nice. Should I keep my orange turning signal lights though? Heres my car:


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Old May 13, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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yeah my headlights were also yellow... not worth it to try to sand them. i TRIED EVERYTHING. but hey DING CHAVEZ when u do pt them on... make sure u align them right.. especially those from ebay.. i bought some and when i put them on. they pointed to the left a little.. then they pointed down... so once u get them on..point it at a wall so u can see the beam of light. its way easier to do it that way...it took me a while to finally get it right...look into the HID conversion too wayyyy better visibility... just my 2cents man lol
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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yea thanks for the advice did any of you guys have trouble with the lights leaking or getting condensation?
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Old May 13, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ding chavez
yea thanks for the advice did any of you guys have trouble with the lights leaking or getting condensation?
I did have that water problem going inside the corner lights. I drilled very small hole at the corner so all the water that gets in will drain.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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what do you mean by the corner lights? The turn signal lights or headlights themselves?
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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You have to start with rougher sandpaper. Do 320, 400, 600, 800, 1000, 1500, 2000, then polish, then swirl remover, then wax. They will look like new.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Since you are looking at aftermarket projector headlights on ebay, I'd recommend sticking with a set that uses H1 or 9005/9006 bulbs. Many of the headlights on ebay are H3 which don't provide as good an output and don't handle HID as well. The first set you posted doesn't say which bulbs they use.

Here are some more choices:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-99...3A1|240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-99...3A1|240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-02...3A1|240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy...3A1|240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-02...3A1|240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-99...3A1|240%3A1318

I'm not certain which bulbs those those use though. One of those ads does say 9005/9006, but the back of the housing doesn't look right. I'd say email the seller to confirm which bulbs the housings use before buying.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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thanks for the links, but i think im going to order these.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-02...#ht_3673wt_923

I like the style a bit more, and they come with 9005/9006 bulbs. Ive seen a few camaros with this particular style and feel like it would look the best.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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This one claims 9005/9006 bulbs and comes with front & rear side marker housings:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-02...3A1|240%3A1318

This one looks like the H1 Sonar projectors, but the ad doesn't say specifically so I'm not sure:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-02...3A1|240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-...3A1|240%3A1318
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ding chavez
thanks for the links, but i think im going to order these.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-02...#ht_3673wt_923

I like the style a bit more, and they come with 9005/9006 bulbs. Ive seen a few camaros with this particular style and feel like it would look the best.
Those are not projectors and technically the halo ring is partially in the way of the low beam. There are several people on here that use them though. The choice is yours, but if you are looking for better performance, check out the others I've posted.
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Old May 13, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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I see what you mean, but headlight performance is actually one on my least concerns. I checked out your links, and im not too crazy about the style (I dont like the little polka dot lights in the corner). If you think the ones I linked are good let me know. It says they come with the bulbs you mentioned, and everything is "plug and play" with no extra modding or wiring. For the price, free shipping, and judging that they fit and dont link I think its a good deal. Let me know =0
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VIP1, out of the six styles you listed above the fourth one down is the only one that says it uses 9005/9006 high low beams. Those IMO are the best looking as well!!
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Originally Posted by ding chavez
If you think the ones I linked are good let me know.
They aren't as good as stock or some others I've posted, but they are better than the frosted lenses you have now so its still an improvement.
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VIP1, out of the six styles you listed above the fourth one down is the only one that says it uses 9005/9006 high low beams. Those IMO are the best looking as well!!
I posted some more in post #13. The link you mentioned comes with headlights and the side markers. The first link in post #13 comes without the side markers. I think you'll like the look of the Camaro in the first link of post #13.

You Camaro guys have an easier time with headlights than us Firebird guys.
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Old May 14, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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decisions decisions...It really comes down to 2 styles, the ones I like with the halo ring in the middle, vs the projector ones with the little dots on the side. Doesnt really matter to me as long as theyre not **** quality and dont leak, dont have a gap, etc. Im going to keep looking so I dont have to go nuts sealing them and buying washers to make them fit right
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Originally Posted by ding chavez
I see what you mean, but headlight performance is actually one on my least concerns. I checked out your links, and im not too crazy about the style (I dont like the little polka dot lights in the corner). If you think the ones I linked are good let me know. It says they come with the bulbs you mentioned, and everything is "plug and play" with no extra modding or wiring. For the price, free shipping, and judging that they fit and dont link I think its a good deal. Let me know =0
I have those, you don't have to wire up the polka dot lights. Mine aren't hooked up, because like you I didn't like them (I think it looks goofy). They are pretty good for HIDs too.

For the front signals, don't get the all black housing ones... I have those, and they leak and melt. Even after sealing the lens the plastic in the back around the socket melted and leak onto the bulb. The better black ones have a chrome reflector behind the bulb with the rest of the housing black, I've been told they don't melt, so I ordered a set. Like these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-02...spagenameZWDVW
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