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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Oh..yeah...nice decision! LOL! Good luck!
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by fccs
JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE, for the 3rd ******* time, IM NOT CUTTING SPRINGS, I BOUGHT VOGTLAND SPRINGS ALREADY... im just waiting on which shocks to pick out now. I seriously wonder if you 3 guys arguing with each other are reading the posts your asking about and giving thoughts on. I'm im no rush as my car is away until April/May so im just buying all my toys now and then throwing them all on the car when it warms up. I DID NOT AND WILL NOT cut my springs, I bought springs already, just in case no one caught that. Now if anyone has advice besides kyb & koni shocks that would be appreciated, thanks lol.
it may seem like a thread has only one purpose when you start it, but for the most part threads expand past their original intent. but its a good thing, a thread like this will provide lots of good points, from both sides, for people looking into these things, now and in the future. in other words, just cause you dont need it, that doesnt mean its all useless. also, your thread title is asking about springs, so if you want people to switch the focus to shocks, you should edit the title and edit your first post to let peolple know that that is your new objective.
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by chaman
Even with the super-duper infinite adjustability a lot of folks have found them just to harsh for street duty. Im sorry to inform you that no, they are not the best setup for everyone, even when they can afford them. Maybe you should look for advices from other sources before reaching to conclusions as definitive as yours.
Bingo! For chaman the Strano/Koni setup isn't "the best," nor is it for me. What chaman thinks is the best setup for him isn't what I think is the best. Same goes for what I think is the best for me. People have different wants and needs when it comes to their cars and how they ride, handle, and look, making all of this 100% purely opinion at the end of the day. But just because something is the most expensive doesn't make it the best. Good post chaman.

Originally Posted by fccs
JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE, for the 3rd ******* time, IM NOT CUTTING SPRINGS, I BOUGHT VOGTLAND SPRINGS ALREADY... im just waiting on which shocks to pick out now. I seriously wonder if you 3 guys arguing with each other are reading the posts your asking about and giving thoughts on. I'm im no rush as my car is away until April/May so im just buying all my toys now and then throwing them all on the car when it warms up. I DID NOT AND WILL NOT cut my springs, I bought springs already, just in case no one caught that. Now if anyone has advice besides kyb & koni shocks that would be appreciated, thanks lol.
The thread expanded past what you were looking for. We were trying to look at two different sides of an arguement. Back to your posts I think you'll be really happy with the Vogtland springs. Honestly if I were going with lowering springs right now they'd be the ones I'd go with, although short of Konis I'm not sure which shocks are the best to dampen them with. Probably get some good recommendations in the Suspension and Handling forum (although 9 out of 10 will be Konis I'm sure). Bilstein revalves would work really well. The SLP/Bilstein shocks would work nicely too I'd think. Or a set of third gen Bilstein HDs.

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it may seem like a thread has only one purpose when you start it, but for the most part threads expand past their original intent. but its a good thing, a thread like this will provide lots of good points, from both sides, for people looking into these things, now and in the future. in other words, just cause you dont need it, that doesnt mean its all useless. also, your thread title is asking about springs, so if you want people to switch the focus to shocks, you should edit the title and edit your first post to let peolple know that that is your new objective.
Bingo. When people search and run through this thread they'll get some good information from both sides of the lowering spring vs. cut springs arguement and be better able to make a decision for themselves (that is assuming anyone uses the search function, ).
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by chaman
Even with the super-duper infinite adjustability a lot of folks have found them just to harsh for street duty. Im sorry to inform you that no, they are not the best setup for everyone, even when they can afford them. Maybe you should look for advices from other sources before reaching to conclusions as definitive as yours.
And ironically enough they would ride significantly better than a KYB/ [insert lowering spring here] setup, while also providing better handling (all thanks to how the KYB's adjust compression and rebound with the same ****), and a life time warranty...
For the price(you could be spending more on race valved shocks, or custom coilovers), the Strano/Koni setup is the best when it comes to an auto-x handling setup, while maintaining street-ability. Proven results at the track don't lie.
While josh99ta's setup (which I want to say good job for taking the extra effort to make it work josh) may ride better, he sacrificing handling, which I know wasn't an issue for him.
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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And ironically enough they would ride significantly better than a KYB/ [insert lowering spring here] setup, while also providing better handling (all thanks to how the KYB's adjust compression and rebound with the same ****), and a life time warranty...
For the price(you could be spending more on race valved shocks, or custom coilovers), the Strano/Koni setup is the best when it comes to an auto-x handling setup, while maintaining street-ability. Proven results at the track don't lie.
While josh99ta's setup (which I want to say good job for taking the extra effort to make it work josh) may ride better, he sacrificing handling, which I know wasn't an issue for him.
Go ask the guys that have found the Koni setup to harsh for the street what they think of that nice story you tell here. The Koni setup shines in the autoX perhaps but you cannot just just think that what is good for you (or what OTHERS tell you is good for you) is good for anybody else. "Proven results in the track dont lie"...well they do because everyday driving is not the track. What is good for the track is not always good for the street...is that too hard to understand? In fact that's the lie....making yourself believe that anything good for the track is good elsewhere!

Repeating the same thing over and over again could sound like the truth or the ultimate piece of mysterious knowledge in the universe...or perhaps is just another person posting an opinion as fact, having trouble to just accept that there is more than one good setup out there. I bet that a lot of people getting the Konis/Strano didnt really need it after all but peer pressure can be a bitch.
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chaman
Go ask the guys that have found the Koni setup to harsh for the street what they think of that nice story you tell here.
I would but I can't find any.
Altough I've seen people switching off KYB's to Konis and getting a better ride and handling, or switching off BMR springs to Strano's and getting a better ride and handling.

The Koni setup shines in the autoX perhaps but you cannot just just think that what is good for you (or what OTHERS tell you is good for you) is good for anybody else.
Sorry but results and numbers don't lie. If you take a look at a shock dyno between the Konis and other shocks you can get an idea.

"Proven results in the track dont lie"...well they do because everyday driving is not the track. What is good for the track is not always good for the street...is that too hard to understand? In fact that's the lie....making yourself believe that anything good for the track is good elsewhere!
That was a quote for handling, not ride quality.

Repeating the same thing over and over again could sound like the truth or the ultimate piece of mysterious knowledge in the universe...or perhaps is just another person posting an opinion as fact, having trouble to just accept that there is more than one good setup out there. I bet that a lot of people getting the Konis/Strano didnt really need it after all but peer pressure can be a bitch.
No one said anything about the other setups not being "good", there are plenty of other good setups, what was brought up was the "best".
And I don't see any peer pressure when someone asks "What is the best setup for handling", or "what is the best spring/shock" etc. and they get an answer often from people who have tried multiple setups, and have track experience. What you "need" is up to you, like do you "need" a 345hp street car?
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Old Dec 27, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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one thing i must say is cut springs are not dangerous.
comeing from me haveing cut springs before if i was on a buget id do it..... its not as bad as everyone thinks. doing it isnt cheaping out! maybe some ppl have better things to spend there $ on,,,, heck cutting your springs and spending nice coin on good shocks is way better then most ppl who buy eibachs and leave the old shocks on..... thats more dangerous, period!
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