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No, your just the only one who doesnt know what they are talking about, thats all.
Its been proven that the sheet metal elbows flow better than the cast pieces, period. Do some research on it before making uneducated comments.
This elbow came off a twin turbo car making over 1000hp. It's been proven to work perfectly fine. Trust had a very similar elbow & made over 800hp on his combo. If sheet metal elbows sucked compared to cast pieces they wouldn't be on the market.
Its been proven that the sheet metal elbows flow better than the cast pieces, period. Do some research on it before making uneducated comments.
This elbow came off a twin turbo car making over 1000hp. It's been proven to work perfectly fine. Trust had a very similar elbow & made over 800hp on his combo. If sheet metal elbows sucked compared to cast pieces they wouldn't be on the market.
Let me break it down for you.....
Basically once air goes thru the throttle body it opens into a larger space,,, its common sense this will create turbulence, plus less air density then you'd get going thru the throttle body. You wanna have equal air density or higher by the time it enters into the manifold or you will have less flow. SIMPLE
If you still don't understand, it's the same with exhaust,,,, strait pipes flow better. Just like with your ram you have restrictions at the throttle plate and intake manifold your box acts like the muffler in this analogy,, creating less flow. (for arguments sake say the muffler is gutted without baffles,, still less flow then strait pipes)
now on to the main difference here... you said twin turbo car... I assume you were putting it on a N/A car,,,
When a n/a engine sucks air in, the flow and density is more of a factor then in a forced air induction car,,,, with those, air in shoved in creating a constant air density and continuous flow. Hence air flow isn't that much of an issue,,, as long as the turbos can push more air then your engine can burn right.
I will also add,,, your ram box plus intake as a whole isn't going to flow as well as a edelbrock ls1 intake when using the same equal throttle body and engine period,,, and if you think so, your the uneducated one!
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From: Skiatook, OK
dude no disrespect here,,, I like your elbow.... I was commenting on a person who said it would flow better then an edelbrock one. I would totally put it on my car if i had one,, I'm sure it flows better then stock.... but its the front part that i cant see flowing that well... the rear part seems fine.
Let me break it down for you.....
Basically once air goes thru the throttle body it opens into a larger space,,, its common sense this will create turbulence, plus less air density then you'd get going thru the throttle body. You wanna have equal air density or higher by the time it enters into the manifold or you will have less flow. SIMPLE
If you still don't understand, it's the same with exhaust,,,, strait pipes flow better. Just like with your ram you have restrictions at the throttle plate and intake manifold your box acts like the muffler in this analogy,, creating less flow. (for arguments sake say the muffler is gutted without baffles,, still less flow then strait pipes)
now on to the main difference here... you said twin turbo car... I assume you were putting it on a N/A car,,,
When a n/a engine sucks air in, the flow and density is more of a factor then in a forced air induction car,,,, with those, air in shoved in creating a constant air density and continuous flow. Hence air flow isn't that much of an issue,,, as long as the turbos can push more air then your engine can burn right.
I will also add,,, your ram box plus intake as a whole isn't going to flow as well as a edelbrock ls1 intake when using the same equal throttle body and engine period,,, and if you think so, your the uneducated one!
Let me break it down for you.....
Basically once air goes thru the throttle body it opens into a larger space,,, its common sense this will create turbulence, plus less air density then you'd get going thru the throttle body. You wanna have equal air density or higher by the time it enters into the manifold or you will have less flow. SIMPLE
If you still don't understand, it's the same with exhaust,,,, strait pipes flow better. Just like with your ram you have restrictions at the throttle plate and intake manifold your box acts like the muffler in this analogy,, creating less flow. (for arguments sake say the muffler is gutted without baffles,, still less flow then strait pipes)
now on to the main difference here... you said twin turbo car... I assume you were putting it on a N/A car,,,
When a n/a engine sucks air in, the flow and density is more of a factor then in a forced air induction car,,,, with those, air in shoved in creating a constant air density and continuous flow. Hence air flow isn't that much of an issue,,, as long as the turbos can push more air then your engine can burn right.
I will also add,,, your ram box plus intake as a whole isn't going to flow as well as a edelbrock ls1 intake when using the same equal throttle body and engine period,,, and if you think so, your the uneducated one!
Yes, this intake will go on a N/A combo for the time being with a FMIC'd D1SC comming in the future. And like I stated before the sheet metal elbow's have been proven to make more power than cast elbows.Period. Buy into manufacture BS all you want, I go by real world results. I have been in this game long enough I know what works and what doesn't.
Just for giggles go look for how many car making serious power run cast elbows & then see how many run sheet metal elbows.
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From: Skiatook, OK
I bought the intake used off another member on here. It was already polished, I just did a little more to it once I got it. Yes, its the LS1 Vic Jr. EFI intake.
I do not believe polished is even a option from Edlebrock. I'm pretty sure the basic cast version is all thats out there. Besides those who have powder coated them.
I do not believe polished is even a option from Edlebrock. I'm pretty sure the basic cast version is all thats out there. Besides those who have powder coated them.
Once you get that force air set up then all the power to you man,,, I can understand your plan of "putting the cart, before the horse" if that's your future plan,, In the mean time don't hold your breath.
I'm not here to make enemies so nice powder coat job by the way.
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From: Skiatook, OK
Why would I waste my time doing that? If you really believe you are right then you could easily back up your claims,,, instead you talk in circles, and can't prove your point at all..... I'll agree to disagree to save other ppl from reading anymore of this argument. Also try not and get confused here,,, Im talking about the elbow alone,,, the elbow itself isnt going to flow better or give you any power gains...... go put it on your car,, go for a drive you'll see,,,, threw out your rev range I guarantee you will find your car sluggish,,,there's tones of mods needed to get real power out of an engine with an elbow set up like that, trust me. If you really wanted to save money and get major gains bolt on a carb.,,, but for fuel injection that manifold and elbow set up is a crude solution.
Once you get that force air set up then all the power to you man,,, I can understand your plan of "putting the cart, before the horse" if that's your future plan,, In the mean time don't hold your breath.
I'm not here to make enemies so nice powder coat job by the way.
Once you get that force air set up then all the power to you man,,, I can understand your plan of "putting the cart, before the horse" if that's your future plan,, In the mean time don't hold your breath.
I'm not here to make enemies so nice powder coat job by the way.
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