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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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My mistake then. I guess I always learned that wrong/heard wrong. Carry on
Just like an airplane's wing. It takes the same amount of time for an air particle to travel from front to back on either the top or bottom of the wing. Because the top is rounded, the distance is further meaning the particle moves faster, and thus exerts a lower pressure than is found on the bottom of the wing creating lift.

And on topic: should turn out to be a great project! Just don't start adding in those ugly splitters too
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dhowdy
Just like an airplane's wing. It takes the same amount of time for an air particle to travel from front to back on either the top or bottom of the wing. Because the top is rounded, the distance is further meaning the particle moves faster, and thus exerts a lower pressure than is found on the bottom of the wing creating lift.
This has been dis-proven but was widely believed for decades. I can't find the video, but a former co-worker of mine did his senior thesis on this and showed me the video. It consisted of an airfoil in a wind tunnel and vertical smoke lines passing by. They came in vertical but left the trailing edge of the airfoil distorted. Specifically, the section that passed over the air foil reached the trailing edge faster than the section that went under it.

Here is a depiction of what you were describing:


Although I can't find that video, here is a nice .gif to show what I'm talking about:


Aerodynamics aside I'd like to see this project come together, let us know if notice a difference one way or another.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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In an effort to streamline the underbody. I am ditching the true duals as they hang way to low and going back to a y-pipe, resonator (in former passenger rear seat area), running the pipe over the passenger side axle, and dumping it right before the gas tank and before the diffuser.

Some pics showing airflow under a formula car with a diffuser.




As you can see, the air speeds up greatly (yellow/org/red) as it passes under the diffuser and exits the car.


On a side note, I picked up and dropped of my aluminum sheet today to be cut out. Will be done by Monday. I am NOT adding fins at this point in time. The diffuser is what speeds up the air, fins only prevent cross-wind from interrupting flow and look ricer-ish if not made correctly.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by InsaneAuto86
In an effort to streamline the underbody. I am ditching the true duals as they hang way to low and going back to a y-pipe, resonator (in former passenger rear seat area), running the pipe over the passenger side axle, and dumping it right before the gas tank and before the diffuser.

Some pics showing airflow under a formula car with a diffuser.




As you can see, the air speeds up greatly (yellow/org/red) as it passes under the diffuser and exits the car.


On a side note, I picked up and dropped of my aluminum sheet today to be cut out. Will be done by Monday. I am NOT adding fins at this point in time. The diffuser is what speeds up the air, fins only prevent cross-wind from interrupting flow and look ricer-ish if not made correctly.
Not cheap but already engineered: http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?i...=FORD&model=GT

i've looked into doing this already and have a template sitting in my garage because I never did anything with it..hmm...
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by InsaneAuto86
In an effort to streamline the underbody. I am ditching the true duals
Any chance you want to sell your setup?
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LadyDriven
Any chance you want to sell your setup?
Def. But shipping to Canada would be rough... It's 3" true duals made with the Summit universal x-pipe kit, dynomax bullet mufflers, and turn downs dumped before the rear axle. Sounds great but I'd like to try something different.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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didn't know we had so many rocket scientists on tech! lol I think a smooth surface would be better than that gap in the back any day.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Just working on the mount for it..



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Old May 5, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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I am really glad this is still going. I am excited to see the results. I have seen too many "hey, what if we did this" threads. Then the guy quits and the thread dies. Keep up the good work and keep us posted!
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Old May 5, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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Looks like nice progress. Being the 'appearance' section, is it going to be powder coated, polished, chromed or painted?
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Old May 5, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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what brand is your PHR?
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Old May 5, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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I'd hope it goes Arctic White to match the car. It would add a nice continuity to the bumper lines. I guess we'll see!
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Old May 5, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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Looks good! How much does it weigh?
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Old May 5, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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i was just wondering about this yesterday. cant wait for mounted then finished then possibly split pictures
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Old May 5, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Looks like nice progress. Being the 'appearance' section, is it going to be powder coated, polished, chromed or painted?
Spray-painted flat black. I expect it to take a lot of rock chips and road debris.

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UMI on-car adj rod end
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Old May 5, 2010 | 09:41 PM
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also curious to see the results of this.. good work so far, and nice choice with the flat black IMO

edit: are those wide oval firehawks? how do you like em?
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Old May 5, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bill12690
edit: are those wide oval firehawks? how do you like em?
yup. Excellent tire for daily driving at a reasonable price.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 02:45 AM
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Would like to see the end of this project looks good so far. And how much is it for both bumper supports?
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Old May 7, 2010 | 05:51 AM
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I was just kidding about how you were going to finish it. It's function over form.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Extremly interested to see what it will look like... Subscribed!!
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