push button starter
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Re: push button starter </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DWS44 2K2HAWK:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by spdracer:
<strong>i lke the idea of the push button starter, but would there be a way just to push the button and make that car start? where you would not have to use the key?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No flame intended, but why would you want it to work w/o the key? That would make it awful easy for someone to steal, wouldn't it?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not only that, but the key also disengages the steering column lock. You would need to take apart your steering column and remove whatever mechanism locks the steering column when the key is out, and then wire in a DPDT relay to simultaneously activate the Ignition power source at the same time as deactivating the starter. This would require more than just a button and a relay, you would need to design a circuit to do it, so that the ignition wire source stays on while the car is running. Then how would you turn the car off? Push the button again? Yes, it would be possible, but would require fabrication of a circuit to do it.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by spdracer:
<strong>i lke the idea of the push button starter, but would there be a way just to push the button and make that car start? where you would not have to use the key?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No flame intended, but why would you want it to work w/o the key? That would make it awful easy for someone to steal, wouldn't it?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not only that, but the key also disengages the steering column lock. You would need to take apart your steering column and remove whatever mechanism locks the steering column when the key is out, and then wire in a DPDT relay to simultaneously activate the Ignition power source at the same time as deactivating the starter. This would require more than just a button and a relay, you would need to design a circuit to do it, so that the ignition wire source stays on while the car is running. Then how would you turn the car off? Push the button again? Yes, it would be possible, but would require fabrication of a circuit to do it.
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Re: push button starter </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001SO1LESS:
<strong>Where are you guys ordering your parts from? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The wiring and relay is available from Radio Shack, and the pushbutton is at the following site:
http://www.handa-accessories.com/s2000int.html
<strong>Where are you guys ordering your parts from? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The wiring and relay is available from Radio Shack, and the pushbutton is at the following site:
http://www.handa-accessories.com/s2000int.html
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Re: push button starter Constrictor!
Where did you buy the floppy drive power cable that you used? I think the Radio Shack one is going to be too big. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Also... Would you happen to know how I could wire it up so I could start it without having to push in the clutch, on my M6? I'm pretty sure there is a way. A buddy of mine has remote start on his vette with an M6.
...Doesn't hurt to ask! Someone might know. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Thanks!
Where did you buy the floppy drive power cable that you used? I think the Radio Shack one is going to be too big. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Also... Would you happen to know how I could wire it up so I could start it without having to push in the clutch, on my M6? I'm pretty sure there is a way. A buddy of mine has remote start on his vette with an M6.
...Doesn't hurt to ask! Someone might know. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Thanks!
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Re: push button starter Two Questions:
1) I was also wondering about how to turn the car off.
2) If you don't want a Honda Part on your car why not use the one from the new Viper? Is it too big or not compatible??
Thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
1) I was also wondering about how to turn the car off.
2) If you don't want a Honda Part on your car why not use the one from the new Viper? Is it too big or not compatible??
Thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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Re: push button starter </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001SO1LESS:
<strong>I got a question!
To turn off the car do you just push the button again? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, you just turn your key to the off position. If you hit the button again, you'll have to replace your starter motor (probably).
<strong>I got a question!
To turn off the car do you just push the button again? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, you just turn your key to the off position. If you hit the button again, you'll have to replace your starter motor (probably).
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Re: push button starter Mobe,
You would have to bypass the neutral safety switch. You can do a search on this site and probably find some info about that. You would have to run a relay so that the neutral safety switch is disengaged whenever the push button is engaged. Actually pretty easy to do.
As for the push-button, next time you start your car, notice that you turn the key to "start" then release and the key turns back towards you. That "start" position is what is being replicated by the button. The button has the EXACT same function as the "start" position for the key, nothing else.
You would have to bypass the neutral safety switch. You can do a search on this site and probably find some info about that. You would have to run a relay so that the neutral safety switch is disengaged whenever the push button is engaged. Actually pretty easy to do.
As for the push-button, next time you start your car, notice that you turn the key to "start" then release and the key turns back towards you. That "start" position is what is being replicated by the button. The button has the EXACT same function as the "start" position for the key, nothing else.
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Re: push button starter 77-vette, I couldn't have put it better myself. This mod is one of those "cool factor" mods that are inexpensive and otherwise useless. That won't stop me from doing it, though!
Re: push button starter </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MOBE:
<strong>Constrictor!
Where did you buy the floppy drive power cable that you used? I think the Radio Shack one is going to be too big. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Thanks!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup, anyone have a part number for the floppy drive power connector? Thats the only thing holding me back right now.
<strong>Constrictor!
Where did you buy the floppy drive power cable that you used? I think the Radio Shack one is going to be too big. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Thanks!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup, anyone have a part number for the floppy drive power connector? Thats the only thing holding me back right now.
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Re: push button starter mhulslan,
I agree! I love the mod and am waiting to get it done in a couple days. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
For the floppy drive cable, go to your local electronics store. Not bestbuy or compusa, but a real computer/electronics store. Take the button with you and they will be able to help you find something. It might take a fan power lead or something of that nature, but you'll find something there.
I agree! I love the mod and am waiting to get it done in a couple days. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
For the floppy drive cable, go to your local electronics store. Not bestbuy or compusa, but a real computer/electronics store. Take the button with you and they will be able to help you find something. It might take a fan power lead or something of that nature, but you'll find something there.
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Re: push button starter Project update - security mount
I just had the mechanical engineering lab machine for me an aluminum sleve that fits the button. Also, they were nice enough to remove the pins and replace them with card edge connectors. Instant removable start button!!! Also, it's one hell of a security measure. Once installed, it will look like the lighter is missing. I'll try to get the CAD file for the sleeve for anyone else who has access to the gear to make one.
I just had the mechanical engineering lab machine for me an aluminum sleve that fits the button. Also, they were nice enough to remove the pins and replace them with card edge connectors. Instant removable start button!!! Also, it's one hell of a security measure. Once installed, it will look like the lighter is missing. I'll try to get the CAD file for the sleeve for anyone else who has access to the gear to make one.
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Re: push button starter Hell no that isn't rice, i'm gonna do it and cut the yellow wire so only the button will start my car, then hide the damn thing as a theft deterent device, hell, then you could just leave you r damn key in the ignition, when a buddy asks to take it for a ride, just tell him, sure man go for it, boy will he be pissed when he can't startit.hehe, then play along, like oh hell man, what did you do, the damn thing just started and ran all the way here.hehe
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Re: push button starter awww damn mhulslan, now you've done it, another idea, now you gotta make these and sell them, i like that the best, great way to have a start kill switch. way to go man!
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Re: push button starter </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001SO1LESS:
<strong>so to start the car you turn it to the on posistion then press the button, then to turn it off you just turn the key back?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, that is correct. Your car turns off just like it normally does without the button.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MOBE:
<strong>Constrictor!
Where did you buy the floppy drive power cable that you used? I think the Radio Shack one is going to be too big. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Also... Would you happen to know how I could wire it up so I could start it without having to push in the clutch, on my M6? I'm pretty sure there is a way. A buddy of mine has remote start on his vette with an M6.
Thanks!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In addition to my passion for F-bodies, I am also a computer geek, and have been building PCs for many years. I usually have some spare parts lying around the house, and I happened to have an old power supply that I wasnt using for anything, so I just cut the power supply cable for the floppy drive off of it.
If you don't have any spare power supplies, look in your phone book and see if theres any computer parts stores in your area. Ask them if they have any old or non-working power supplied lying around and see if they'll cut off the power supply cable for the floppy drive and give it to you.
As for bypassing the clutch cutoff, I can't really help you as I have an automatic. I'm sure it's not hard though.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WOJSS02:
<strong>Two Questions:
2) If you don't want a Honda Part on your car why not use the one from the new Viper? Is it too big or not compatible??
Thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm sure the Viper button would work, but I don't know of any aftermarket places that sell Viper OEM parts, and even if you found one, I doubt you would be able to beat Hand-a's price on the S2000 button. It works fine, and unless you run into someone who is familiar with the S2000, no one but you (and us) would know you had a Honda part in your car. Its not like it says "Made by Honda" on it or anything.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mhulslan:
<strong>Project update - security mount
I just had the mechanical engineering lab machine for me an aluminum sleve that fits the button. Also, they were nice enough to remove the pins and replace them with card edge connectors. Instant removable start button!!! Also, it's one hell of a security measure. Once installed, it will look like the lighter is missing. I'll try to get the CAD file for the sleeve for anyone else who has access to the gear to make one.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now, that is a DAMN COOL idea!! I wonder how it would look when istalled and removed. You definitely need to take some pictures for us once you get it all hooked up!
<strong>so to start the car you turn it to the on posistion then press the button, then to turn it off you just turn the key back?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, that is correct. Your car turns off just like it normally does without the button.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MOBE:
<strong>Constrictor!
Where did you buy the floppy drive power cable that you used? I think the Radio Shack one is going to be too big. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Also... Would you happen to know how I could wire it up so I could start it without having to push in the clutch, on my M6? I'm pretty sure there is a way. A buddy of mine has remote start on his vette with an M6.
Thanks!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In addition to my passion for F-bodies, I am also a computer geek, and have been building PCs for many years. I usually have some spare parts lying around the house, and I happened to have an old power supply that I wasnt using for anything, so I just cut the power supply cable for the floppy drive off of it.
If you don't have any spare power supplies, look in your phone book and see if theres any computer parts stores in your area. Ask them if they have any old or non-working power supplied lying around and see if they'll cut off the power supply cable for the floppy drive and give it to you.
As for bypassing the clutch cutoff, I can't really help you as I have an automatic. I'm sure it's not hard though.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WOJSS02:
<strong>Two Questions:
2) If you don't want a Honda Part on your car why not use the one from the new Viper? Is it too big or not compatible??
Thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm sure the Viper button would work, but I don't know of any aftermarket places that sell Viper OEM parts, and even if you found one, I doubt you would be able to beat Hand-a's price on the S2000 button. It works fine, and unless you run into someone who is familiar with the S2000, no one but you (and us) would know you had a Honda part in your car. Its not like it says "Made by Honda" on it or anything.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mhulslan:
<strong>Project update - security mount
I just had the mechanical engineering lab machine for me an aluminum sleve that fits the button. Also, they were nice enough to remove the pins and replace them with card edge connectors. Instant removable start button!!! Also, it's one hell of a security measure. Once installed, it will look like the lighter is missing. I'll try to get the CAD file for the sleeve for anyone else who has access to the gear to make one.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now, that is a DAMN COOL idea!! I wonder how it would look when istalled and removed. You definitely need to take some pictures for us once you get it all hooked up!
Re: push button starter </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mhulslan:
<strong>Project update - security mount
I just had the mechanical engineering lab machine for me an aluminum sleve that fits the button. Also, they were nice enough to remove the pins and replace them with card edge connectors. Instant removable start button!!! Also, it's one hell of a security measure. Once installed, it will look like the lighter is missing. I'll try to get the CAD file for the sleeve for anyone else who has access to the gear to make one.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Please send me the file if you can!!!
<strong>Project update - security mount
I just had the mechanical engineering lab machine for me an aluminum sleve that fits the button. Also, they were nice enough to remove the pins and replace them with card edge connectors. Instant removable start button!!! Also, it's one hell of a security measure. Once installed, it will look like the lighter is missing. I'll try to get the CAD file for the sleeve for anyone else who has access to the gear to make one.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Please send me the file if you can!!!
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Re: push button starter Push button is in, and...
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Re: push button starter is there any other type of button that you could use, i have decided to do this and really would like a blue button instead of the red one. anyone have any ideas?
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