good store bought wax
08-29-2010, 09:18 PM
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good store bought wax im looking for a good store bought wax. any suggestions would be very helpful. and does anyone know if meguires swirl remover 2.0 is good stuff? im using some nxt 2.0 wax right now. curious if there is anything better
08-29-2010, 10:20 PM
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08-29-2010, 10:29 PM
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if you use the swirlx or even the scratch x, i would def use a pure polish after before applying the nxt. i would then top the nxt with megs gold class carnuba and leave it at that
08-30-2010, 03:31 PM
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what would be a good buffer to use? im looking for cheap. i was looking at the one at like pepboys and checkers but i thought i would here your guys' input before i did anything
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08-30-2010, 04:57 PM
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If you want to keep to store bought stuff, keep to Meguiars and don't dream of anything better. If you do, you will have to venture out of the store and spend a lot more money.
08-30-2010, 04:58 PM
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i bought a harbor freight rotary buffer for 29.99 and started out by getting experience using old spoilers and body parts i had laying around the garage. im not going to say its easier than it looks however you would have to be wrong in the head to burn the paint because that rotary is so cheap the motor really cant handle much load.
that being said to get any sort of deep results out of your finish your going to need a professional tool. a rotary is a pain in the *** they spray everywhere especially if the compound starts to dry, save some time and effort and invest now in a porter cable.
fyi i got out nearly every imperfection in my z28 using a rotary and turle wax polishing compound. it takes patience and practice and in the end i should have just saved my own time and energy and bought a porter cable
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08-30-2010, 11:36 PM
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Don't get a buffer, if you aren't ready to spend the right amount of money. Cheap and detailing don't go well together.
If you want to keep to store bought stuff, keep to Meguiars and don't dream of anything better. If you do, you will have to venture out of the store and spend a lot more money.
If you want to keep to store bought stuff, keep to Meguiars and don't dream of anything better. If you do, you will have to venture out of the store and spend a lot more money.
i bought a harbor freight rotary buffer for 29.99 and started out by getting experience using old spoilers and body parts i had laying around the garage. im not going to say its easier than it looks however you would have to be wrong in the head to burn the paint because that rotary is so cheap the motor really cant handle much load.
that being said to get any sort of deep results out of your finish your going to need a professional tool. a rotary is a pain in the *** they spray everywhere especially if the compound starts to dry, save some time and effort and invest now in a porter cable.
fyi i got out nearly every imperfection in my z28 using a rotary and turle wax polishing compound. it takes patience and practice and in the end i should have just saved my own time and energy and bought a porter cable
that being said to get any sort of deep results out of your finish your going to need a professional tool. a rotary is a pain in the *** they spray everywhere especially if the compound starts to dry, save some time and effort and invest now in a porter cable.
fyi i got out nearly every imperfection in my z28 using a rotary and turle wax polishing compound. it takes patience and practice and in the end i should have just saved my own time and energy and bought a porter cable
08-31-2010, 01:04 AM
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gofast908z can you give me some advice on what to use. the only reason i said cheap was because i havent found a job yet cause i just moved out of state and just wanted my car to look good and now i have found a job so im just about ready to start putting some good money into detailing and ive seen a lot of your work and man you are good lol
08-31-2010, 07:53 AM
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to be honest i have tried both and didnt notice a difference between the two. even using a machine they never really got any swirls out, however they leave the deepest shine out of any other product i have used. my z28 loves swirl-x
i bought a harbor freight rotary buffer for 29.99 and started out by getting experience using old spoilers and body parts i had laying around the garage. im not going to say its easier than it looks however you would have to be wrong in the head to burn the paint because that rotary is so cheap the motor really cant handle much load.
that being said to get any sort of deep results out of your finish your going to need a professional tool. a rotary is a pain in the *** they spray everywhere especially if the compound starts to dry, save some time and effort and invest now in a porter cable.
fyi i got out nearly every imperfection in my z28 using a rotary and turle wax polishing compound. it takes patience and practice and in the end i should have just saved my own time and energy and bought a porter cable
i bought a harbor freight rotary buffer for 29.99 and started out by getting experience using old spoilers and body parts i had laying around the garage. im not going to say its easier than it looks however you would have to be wrong in the head to burn the paint because that rotary is so cheap the motor really cant handle much load.
that being said to get any sort of deep results out of your finish your going to need a professional tool. a rotary is a pain in the *** they spray everywhere especially if the compound starts to dry, save some time and effort and invest now in a porter cable.
fyi i got out nearly every imperfection in my z28 using a rotary and turle wax polishing compound. it takes patience and practice and in the end i should have just saved my own time and energy and bought a porter cable
Thanks Chrysler Kid!! Yeah, its painful seeing the swirls on our NBM cars man...
Also i hear the Porter Cable wont burn through your paint so its alot safer to use than a cheap orbital buffer? is that true?
08-31-2010, 08:28 AM
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holy **** there is a lot of misinformation here.
rotaries can be dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. you can easily rub through too much clear coat and expose your sensitive base coat underneath. i would definitely stay away from that.
a porter cable on the other hand is pretty hard to screw up for a newbie, just because it applies the same amount of pressure no matter how unsteady your hand is. so if you push down on the PC hard, it will slow the speed so the friction is less and thus won't eat into that area of clear coat more the other areas.
swirl x/swirl 2.0 are both fine, but don't even think about using it with your hand, because it will only make marring worse. you need the PC.
nxt 2.0 is great, but doesn't last long. if you are going to buy a PC online though, you may as well buy better polish online--blackfire wet diamond LSP is one of the most well recommended as of late.
lastly, if you're spending $30 on any type of machine buffer, it's crap. the PC is about the cheapest option that actually works, and it's over $100. everything else is just bad quality or won't spin nearly fast enough to generate the friction required for reducing swirls. also make sure you buy the right pads or else you'll just make your job of removing swirls even harder.
www.autopia.org
www.autogeek.net
www.lakecountrypads.com
rotaries can be dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. you can easily rub through too much clear coat and expose your sensitive base coat underneath. i would definitely stay away from that.
a porter cable on the other hand is pretty hard to screw up for a newbie, just because it applies the same amount of pressure no matter how unsteady your hand is. so if you push down on the PC hard, it will slow the speed so the friction is less and thus won't eat into that area of clear coat more the other areas.
swirl x/swirl 2.0 are both fine, but don't even think about using it with your hand, because it will only make marring worse. you need the PC.
nxt 2.0 is great, but doesn't last long. if you are going to buy a PC online though, you may as well buy better polish online--blackfire wet diamond LSP is one of the most well recommended as of late.
lastly, if you're spending $30 on any type of machine buffer, it's crap. the PC is about the cheapest option that actually works, and it's over $100. everything else is just bad quality or won't spin nearly fast enough to generate the friction required for reducing swirls. also make sure you buy the right pads or else you'll just make your job of removing swirls even harder.
www.autopia.org
www.autogeek.net
www.lakecountrypads.com
08-31-2010, 04:07 PM
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gofast908z can you give me some advice on what to use. the only reason i said cheap was because i havent found a job yet cause i just moved out of state and just wanted my car to look good and now i have found a job so im just about ready to start putting some good money into detailing and ive seen a lot of your work and man you are good lol
08-31-2010, 04:13 PM
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I was asking cause I'm running out of the store bought stuff. I plan on getting the pc soon with some pads and some detailing products. Just want to give my car the shine it deserves
08-31-2010, 04:17 PM
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Then its time to venture out of the store. You can get the Blackfire Wet Diamond kit for about 50 bux from properautocare. Its the sealant, their detail spray, 2 MF cloths, and an applicator. Its really good stuff and great value for money. Also if you get it, APPLY IT THINLY!! You don't need to use much at all.