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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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I've read a few write ups on general sites not specific to F-Bodies and have a question. I've seen that installing racing harnesses in racing seats can be dangerous if improperly mounted. The optimum angle according to most manufactures is 20 degrees downward as the harness goes through the guides in the seat and that mounting them to a bar is best.

I've seen guys mount them over the rear seats to the rear deck and see the danger in this if someone were to get into a collision where that area of the car crushed. I also see the danger in mounting them to the lower seat brackets as in some accidents it could cause the belts to over tighten and crush the person in the seat. I saw pictures of someone else who mounted the harness to the rear seatbelt location. It seemed to be a much better angle but I still question the safety of it.

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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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What type of racing are going to do? I have the 6Liter design harness bar And a
wrap around 5pt harness.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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I was planning on buying your seats and the harness bar. I haven't made my mind up on the harness. I decided all of that after some research and deciding for my application, I don't really need a full cage. As soon as I got my shopping list I saw a picture of someone with there harness bolted to the rear seatbelt points. I'm not going to do that but it made me curious if it was as unsafe as the other locations.

I guess I'm kind of a nerd and curious the geometry/safety issues behind it. BTW...PM sent Steven.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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i would like to know what you find out because im interested in the same product and have the same question.
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Our bar puts it right where you would mount it on a rollcage... DO NOT get those harnesses that mount to the floor, that will f@ck you up in a real accident.
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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Our bar puts it right where you would mount it on a rollcage... DO NOT get those harnesses that mount to the floor, that will f@ck you up in a real accident.
Hey Mark, just letting you know that I received your harness bar in the mail today. Looks great. Anyway, the reason I am (sorry man) is to find out if anyone knows to to remove the seatbelts from the ceiling of the car. I have the bar installed and the 5 point harness in and it looks great, just need to get the stock ones out.
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Originally Posted by Trans-Am Terrorist
Hey Mark, just letting you know that I received your harness bar in the mail today. Looks great. Anyway, the reason I am (sorry man) is to find out if anyone knows to to remove the seatbelts from the ceiling of the car. I have the bar installed and the 5 point harness in and it looks great, just need to get the stock ones out.
If I remember correctly pull the headliner and it is only one or two bolts...
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Wrapping video! Very useful, got the driver side of mine done today.
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Originally Posted by Trans-Am Terrorist
Hey Mark, just letting you know that I received your harness bar in the mail today. Looks great. Anyway, the reason I am (sorry man) is to find out if anyone knows to to remove the seatbelts from the ceiling of the car. I have the bar installed and the 5 point harness in and it looks great, just need to get the stock ones out.

Daily driver or racing? I would leave them in. I have both a 5pt harness and stock belts and they work just fine.
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ssteven@6LE
Daily driver or racing? I would leave them in. I have both a 5pt harness and stock belts and they work just fine.
More daily driving than racing but I do both. I just dont like the look of the stock with the 5 points.
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Originally Posted by 6LITEREATER
Our bar puts it right where you would mount it on a rollcage... DO NOT get those harnesses that mount to the floor, that will f@ck you up in a real accident.
whats the better option?
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Originally Posted by Trans-Am Terrorist
More daily driving than racing but I do both. I just dont like the look of the stock with the 5 points.
You have to remove the headliner and then it is two bolts per seat belt. and then the bolt in the floor.
to remove head liner you have to unscrew the a pillars, the visors, the interior light (right above the rear seats), and then there is a plastic piece in the middle of the headliner. I forgot what it is called but i used an (what looks like) a small screwdriver sized pry bar. once the plastic piece is removed the headliner should fall down.
If you have a hard top car, not sure how to do that as I have only removed them on a t-top car. Also you will have a hole in the headliner where the seat belts were.
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Originally Posted by NeedaV8foundation
whats the better option?
Wrap them.
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostofKrypton
You have to remove the headliner and then it is two bolts per seat belt. and then the bolt in the floor.
to remove head liner you have to unscrew the a pillars, the visors, the interior light (right above the rear seats), and then there is a plastic piece in the middle of the headliner. I forgot what it is called but i used an (what looks like) a small screwdriver sized pry bar. once the plastic piece is removed the headliner should fall down.
If you have a hard top car, not sure how to do that as I have only removed them on a t-top car. Also you will have a hole in the headliner where the seat belts were.
Thanks for the help. Makes it a lot clearer. Seems easy enough, and I am not worried about that small hole.

Originally Posted by camar0corey
Wrap them.
That is exactly what I did. Right to the harness bar, secure and quiet!
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Originally Posted by camar0corey
Wrap them.
i thought we were talking about the side straps not the top ones... i was a little cornfused
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