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Old 02-12-2011, 07:10 PM
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I love this! I would so do this if I had the guts and money. I would worry too much about the stability of the core suport with that much material cut away.
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Looks good. How do you plan on attaching fans?
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Looks good, any signifigant strength loss to cutting that much out of the core support?
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Gm should've did it like that. Did you relocate the wires that run through there?
Old 02-13-2011, 12:16 AM
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i remember years ago saving pics of your car..

..here we are again

Old 02-13-2011, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWS6Am
Can't wait to see this all done! Very good unique idea!
I'll be sure to keep you guys posted, i've got some welding to do to fill in the ends of the core support which are now openly hollow as you can see, as well as filling the holes on the top before i can lay any filler on it and start smoothing it out, but it should look super clean. Thanks man!

Originally Posted by MeenZ28
I love this! I would so do this if I had the guts and money. I would worry too much about the stability of the core suport with that much material cut away.
Thanks man, i'm really liking it too of course. Honestly yes, the core support has a substantial loss of rigidity compared to stock, obviously without the radiator installed the top feels like a high gauge aluminum can. I can bend it by hand, but with the radiator underneath it, it's pretty much as sturdy as can be, and will be alot better once i weld up the sides of the support.

Originally Posted by 1badWS6
Looks good. How do you plan on attaching fans?
I intend on attaching the fans exactly like "roadtrip120." His setup is right here. I've PM'd him about his set up, but have yet to hear back from him. lets hope he chimes in.

Originally Posted by McNord@6LE
Looks good, any signifigant strength loss to cutting that much out of the core support?
Thanks man. i answered your question a quote or two above.

Originally Posted by riceburnerZ28
Gm should've did it like that. Did you relocate the wires that run through there?
Yes, i've relocated the entire harness that goes to the fuse box and everything underneath the dash. the only wiring in the engine bay is the "engine" harness, and of course wiring for the headlights, and fans will be run separately and again, of course hidden from sight.

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i remember years ago saving pics of your car..

..here we are again

well thanks man, i'm glad i'm picture saving worthy. haha
after all, i'm not even 20 yet.
Old 02-13-2011, 07:03 AM
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Excellent job man, well done
Old 02-13-2011, 12:29 PM
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Damn I can't stop looking at it. **** is so much cleaner. Do you have a link to the fans you're gonna use?
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Do yo do away with the hood latch?
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Looks good, will deffinatly be interested in seeing pics with the motor back in.
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I wonder if i would be able to still use my ac condenser and trans cooler with your way. Also I wonder if a front mount ic would clear everything?
Old 02-13-2011, 09:18 PM
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i was seriously contemplating doing this to mine while i had it apart, i didn't end up doing it and now your pictures are filling me with regret.


....damnit...nice job though for sure!
Old 02-13-2011, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by glocklimited9
Excellent job man, well done
Thanks, both of your cars are sick too bro.

Originally Posted by 1badWS6
Damn I can't stop looking at it. **** is so much cleaner. Do you have a link to the fans you're gonna use?
I don't have a link to the fans i'm going to use because as previously stated i have yet to get a reply from the person i PM'd about the fan setup he's running.

Originally Posted by a98ws6
Do yo do away with the hood latch?
No, the hood latch assembly still bolts to the front of the support.

Originally Posted by black_sheep454
Looks good, will deffinatly be interested in seeing pics with the motor back in.
lol, there's obviously an lt1 in the bay. even visible in the pictures. Thanks though man.

Originally Posted by blown99bergerssclone
I wonder if i would be able to still use my ac condenser and trans cooler with your way. Also I wonder if a front mount ic would clear everything?
I'm sure with modification the the condenser and cooler you could squeeze them in front of the radiator. As for the FMIC, usually people mount those alot further forward like where the bumper support is located, so i see this being in no way involved with that.

Originally Posted by 2000_SS
i was seriously contemplating doing this to mine while i had it apart, i didn't end up doing it and now your pictures are filling me with regret.


....damnit...nice job though for sure!
Awe man, i would have loved to have seen your car with this setup, youre bay is sick as it is, and this would put it at a whole new level. I mean, you could still do it, you'd just have to repaint the core support once it was finished.


so i got an update. Today i spent most of the day with a can of aircraft stripper, and stripped the core support and associated structure completely down to bare metal. I want to do it up right, and not skimp in any way, so this is it. I don't own a welder, or know how to weld, so i need to find somebody that can weld a few things up for me. If anyone knows anybody In San Antonio area willing to help me out, let me know. I'd appreciate it. I'll need to get the holes and sides of the support welded up before i lay down any filler. but here it is for now. I've still gotta finish up stripping the drivers side a bit more, but it was killing my back leaning over the bay scraping all day, lol.

enjoy.

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Old 02-14-2011, 08:45 AM
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dont think i would have taken all the way down with the stripper
because you just remover the factory e-coat now you will need 2 seal it up with some epoxy and its hard 2 get in all the crakes and creases as good as the factory does it
Old 02-14-2011, 09:28 AM
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yeah after reading that i wasnt very clear sorry

the camaro front bumper can allow for air to flow straight through the radiator as you have it placed (but does require cutting i think cant remember if its open behind the grill openings or not) but the firebird or transam bumper relys only on the lower airdam to get airflow accross the radiator.
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thanks for the pictures, looks great. are you planning on keeping A/C? or it being ditched?
Old 02-15-2011, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by slammed1500
dont think i would have taken all the way down with the stripper
because you just remover the factory e-coat now you will need 2 seal it up with some epoxy and its hard 2 get in all the crakes and creases as good as the factory does it
Hmm, i'm not really familiar with this. The whole bay will be spot welded, smoothed, sanded down, primed, based and cleared. I don't see why i would have any problems out of it.

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yeah after reading that i wasnt very clear sorry

the camaro front bumper can allow for air to flow straight through the radiator as you have it placed (but does require cutting i think cant remember if its open behind the grill openings or not) but the firebird or transam bumper relys only on the lower airdam to get airflow accross the radiator.
This setup should work just the same on a transam regardless of airflow through the front bumper, the Airdam is still intact on this car, and should function just the same, the airflow will just be more acute going into the radiator, but more direct. Rather than going along the edge of the rad and jamming into the radiator support, it should go right into the radiator.

Originally Posted by 94m6Z28
thanks for the pictures, looks great. are you planning on keeping A/C? or it being ditched?
AC is already ditched.
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here is a recent picture with the hood latch assembly and header panel brackets bolted on just to show this setup leaves all the factory mounting points. Idk if a washer fluid tank would fit though, i don't have one, and i don't care. Lol.
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on the flip side, for you guys interested in this setup with AC. You obviously would not be able to use the stock sized condenser as it's way too big for this space. I did however take some measurements. If you were to keep AC, the max dimensions of the condenser to be able fit in front of the radiator setup would be 26.25" wide, and 12.875" high. The thickness of the condenser could be pretty thick though, but knowing they're not, there would be plenty of room on that aspect of it.
Old 02-21-2011, 10:36 PM
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Kinda off topic for the Vertical radiator setup, but i ended up cutting my inner fenders out the other day, and weighed it after. 5lbs off each side. 10lbs total.
i left the lip because that's where i'll be putting my wiring for the headlights, fans, etc.

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Old 02-21-2011, 11:19 PM
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if youd like to see pics of my vertical Radiator, check out the link in my sig. lots of pictures there... and no cooling problems here at all!


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