Also..how about some pics with these installed....

I'm VERY interested in the NBM ones..How much $$ are we talking for an exact replica of these
<img src="http://www.thecheckeredflagstore.com/dcs/images/NBMCAMAROSS.JPG" alt=" - " />

Brian

<small>[ April 14, 2003, 03:06 PM: Message edited by: 2K2CamaroSS ]</small>

 

<----------- Deserately needs a set for the SuperChevy show in 2 weeks!

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fast Eddie's 02 T/A vert.:
<strong> I haven't heard much feedback from anyone that has ordered a set of the FRCs.Are they ready to bolt up upon receiving them.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"></strong>
'Bolt up' is a relative term. I don't have their FRCs (made my own) but with the variations in engines, drivelines, options, and accesories over the years of LS1 F-bod production, a little trimming may be necessary. Its not that complicated, just be careful.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>I haven't heard any feedback about the over heating issues w/the f-body.

Please elaborate if you have any info on these issues.

Thank you. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I seriously doubt that overheating is an issue with these FRCs. If it were, the Corvettes wouldn't have them. Remember, you've got a hood up above the engine that holds 3x the heat in that these FRCs could. There is a ton of airflow coming in/under/around the engine bay...so unless you're making them out of a foam/glass layup and fitting them to the engine a LOT tighter than they do fit, you're not going to have issues.

Byrdman

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by parbreak:
<strong> . . . As for overheating, I put a disclaimer in with the install instructions and notes I give everyone about potential overheating issues. YOu are right there is tons of air under our hoods. BUT, I do recommend that everyone invest in some heat shield tape and stick it on the bottom of the covers. . . </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I know you are answering a question, but why is anybody concerned with heat??? Think about it you have a Corvette and a Camaro, both cars run basically the same engine. The engine compartment of a Camaro is actually more open than a Vette, so you think heat will be a problem? Do you really think GM would install a part on the most expensive Chevrolet car that would harm it? Granted GM isn't the smarted cookie in the batch but come on?

 

XstaZ,

It's called CYA(Covering My A**!!). I agree, I haven't had problems with heat, but a lot of folks think it's a potential problem. So, $15 for the tape is cheap peace of mind. But, thanks for backing me up in my thought's that heat is not really an issue.

Bryan

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by parbreak:
<strong> It's called CYA(Covering My A**!!). </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> Been there - Done that! BTW nice FRC's you are putting together, anyscoop on sponsoring LS1Tech?

 

I'm with Todd!!
Waiting for mine for Super Chevy too!
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Jon

 

Why didn't they make FRCs from the factory for our f-bodys.I'm just curious as to their reasoning.

The engine looks incomplete without them,how dare them. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by parbreak:
<strong> XstaZ,

It's called CYA(Covering My A**!!). I agree, I haven't had problems with heat, but a lot of folks think it's a potential problem. So, $15 for the tape is cheap peace of mind. But, thanks for backing me up in my thought's that heat is not really an issue.

Bryan </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">To be honest, I'd rather NOT use the heat tape...here's the thought...if you're heating the coilpacks from underneath (heads, exhaust) and you put reflective tape above them (bottom of FRCs) you're going to be exposing them (potentially) to more heat. Heat kills electronics...just a thought.

I'd rather sacrifice a set of FRCs than a coilpack and (potentially) the damage that a failed ignition could do.

Just my 2 pennies...

If you're worried about CYA, provide the tape (or part number, whatever) and enclose a statement about it. Let the customer decide.

Byrdman

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fast Eddie's 02 T/A vert.:
<strong> Why didn't they make FRCs from the factory for our f-bodys.I'm just curious as to their reasoning.

The engine looks incomplete without them,how dare them. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">$$$ and the fact that about 1/3 of our engine is tucked under the windshield. The GTO will have them...the engine is more exposed like on the Corvette.

Byrdman

 

Byrdman,
Thank you for the response.These have become NON issues for me now. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

Hey Guys,

Thought I would chime in since I make the ones everyone's discussing. I trim them so basically no trimming is required. As you can see from the pics there are some notches taken out of the back to compensate for the AIR hose on the driver's side and the large bundle of wires at the rear of the coil pack on the passenger's side. Not every year or model may need these notches but they make installation one heck of a lot easier and they are not seen after install because the cowl extends so far forward.

As for overheating, I put a disclaimer in with the install instructions and notes I give everyone about potential overheating issues. YOu are right there is tons of air under our hoods. BUT, I do recommend that everyone invest in some heat shield tape and stick it on the bottom of the covers.

Hope that helps answer some questions and concerns.

Bryan

 

Bryan is supposed to be on vacation this week, so he mentioned that he will get several orders finished. I HOPE I can get mine in time for Super Chevy also. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Xsta Z 28:
<strong> Granted GM isn't the smarted cookie in the batch but come on? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How so? I think if you added up all the PHd's, Masters, and other pedigree's in their engineering department, I think you'd be rather surprised.

Just because YOU don't like some of the decisions they make regarding design's of their cars, you must keep in mind, they have to cater to a wider net of people out there and they have many more obejctive's to hit than you and I do out in our garage being solely focused on performance attributes. They must balance performance, emissions, warrantyability, noise levels, safety, etc, etc. Conversely, you and I just care about the performance part of the equation. As such, that's why we curse some of their engineering.

Remember, there is ALWAYS a reason behind GM's engineering teams' designs.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by CMNTMXR57:
<strong> How so? . . .

Remember, there is ALWAYS a reason behind GM's engineering teams' designs. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, don't get me wrong, I am not cursing out GM. Just saying, and this would apply to all car manufacturers, that some decisions that are made can be questioned.

 

They (all manufacturers) have their specific reasons though.

Sometimes you just have to search for the holy grail to find it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Todd@DiscountTireDirect:
<strong> <----------- Deserately needs a set for the SuperChevy show in 2 weeks! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey Todd.. I plan on being at Super Chevy in Phoenix also <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> .. This way I can see your car and you can decide if you REALLY want to buy mine <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

I'll buy ya a beer.. what a trip it will be.. the Camaro picnic (aternative to the cancelled SLP day) on Saturday then blast to Phoenix for SC on Sunday.. then blast home.. where is that NODOZE??? <img border="0" alt="[boring]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_zzz.gif" />

Oh, and ive ran FRC for two years now with ZERO heat problems.. and mine are the thicker Carbon Fiber type.. i doubt its an issue <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

 

question:

i'm using duplicolor metalcast to do a handful of underhood items as well as calipers.. woudl you be able to use this paint for it?

 

Thanks for the feedback everyone.I'm going to order a set of FRCs today..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by lucky_topher:
<strong> question:

i'm using duplicolor metalcast to do a handful of underhood items as well as calipers.. woudl you be able to use this paint for it? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is the "anodized" paint right?? If so I would not use it to paint the covers for 2 reasons:

(1) I believe it is designed for use on bare polished metal. Don't think you would get the intended look by painting over primer on the covers.

(2) I mix in a plastic adhesion promoter and flex additive to my auto paints to make the paint stick to the plastic and also be flexible. I wouldn't be able to add this to a spray paint.

Hope this helps answer your question.

Bryan