baddogz28

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I just used NXT for the first time- every other time i have used ZYMOL... My car looks nice now (see multimedia forum for pics) but the only reason I used it is because I don't have the $50 for ZYMOL (I just got fired- thanks god I don't have to sell Ford crap any more!) While the NXT looks nice, I'll be back on ZYMOL when I have a job again and am not just freeloading on my babymama. By the way, if some of you think that people with $3,000,000 pebble beach winning cars use Zaino or Meguiars, you are crazy. These types of people have ZYMOL custom make them a wax for THEIR car, and their car only based upon paint type and color. Last time I checked, there were no LS1's at pebble beach.

minivette

Where did you get this info? Could you point me to said info so I can make my own informed opinion?

ZaneO

www.autopia.org -- do a search for Dawn

tuffluck

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<--what he said. dawn is not something that should go on cars. i don't mean to sound rude, but f-body boards are not a place you should look to find detailing information. so if you read on an f-body board that dawn is okay for your car, you are mistaken. detailing boards are where you will find the most detailing information. and if you found your information elsewhere, you were misinformed.

besides, unless you are using zaino, why bother with an extra step of washing with dawn when your cleaner wax will take the old wax right out? i know YOU use zaino, but i'm just saying in general that dawn is an extra, useless step. and that's despite it's downsides.

ZaneO

Dawn isn't even necessary on a Zaino'd car if you properly prep the paint

StavosWS6

So what removes Zaino, soap wise?

Also i'm going to the Autostore tonight, what kind of soap does everyone use?

PendragonZ

I couldn't care less what some dork with a 3 million dollar car uses on his machine. Whatever it is, that person is paying too much.

For my car, I just use NXT. Looks good, great results.

ZaneO

You shouldn't use soap to remove wax/sealant, etc. from your paint. Use a light polish or paint cleaner, such as Menzerna Final Polish or Klasse AIO.

minivette

I didn't get it from some board. It was in the instructions from Zaino. As in the people who make the product recommended it.

ZaneO

He was answering your question. Stop thinking you are billy badass because you read the Zaino instructions and think you know everything about detailing now.

minivette

No he didn't answer my question dumbfuck. Why would I go and read on a forum somewhere and follow someones recommendation that went against what the maker of the product says to do? Idiot.

StavosWS6

who knew washing your car could cause such an uproar?

absolut_speed

iTrader: (1)

Will NXT remove Zaino since NXT contains cleaning properties?

PendragonZ

Some tests have shown that NXT does remove zaino.

ZaneO

If you had the first clue about properly prepping your car's finish before applying any wax/sealant, you wouldn't be so cocky and you certainly wouldn't need Dawn.

Have fun with your Dawn and Zaino.

tuffluck

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do people tend to read anything within the SAME post? i just answered this question.

and minivette - just because zaino instructs you to use dawn does not mean they are correct. seriously, if you are going to get riled up and pissed off about it, just use the damn stuff. it's not our car, so we don't give a **** what kind of dish soap, bathtub cleaner, mildew remover, or clothes detergent you may put on your car. either way, there is no reason to argue about it. either look it up yourself to see that dawn and cars shouldn't mix, or just continue in your own stubborn way. and if you think we are wrong and that the zaino brothers are the gods of detail, then let us continue on in our own stubborn way and miss out on all the beautifully dawned paint that exists out there. it doesn't matter to us.

Mike00FRC

iTrader: (1)

I heard that those people with $3,000,000 winning cars at Pebble Beach have Dawn make a specific blend of dish soap based on the wax and car color... much like Zymol does

Joe "Preachers Sheets" DIESO

iTrader: (4)

Those people are filthy rich anyhow, they are spending chump change on their cars so the detailing supplies are pennies. Have you ever seen those cars man, you should go to an exclusive show sometime, the cars are like paintings, you can just stare at them, the shine of their cars is amazing. You'll probaly meet a ton of snobs but whatever, tell em you can beat the **** out of them

SuperBuick

Just to correct one OTHER misconception that's been going on in this thread (and there are many) , Meguiars NXT Tech Wax is NOT a polymer/carnauba blend. NXT has NO carnauba in it whatsoever. For those interested in getting TRUE and ACCURATE information on NXT, head to autopia and PM Mike Philips. He works for Meguiars and does have a bias toward meguiars products that he openly admits, but he also works on product development, teaches professional-level clinics, and has tried everything under the sun from Autoglym to Zaino.

In addition, regarding Dawn washing, this is the "lazy man's" way of "prepping" a car. The reason you'll find it on the Zaino site as recommended prep is because they aren't going to say "use another brand of polish to prep your car". Dawn is the politically correct and simple answer, but it is definetely a short-cut, and not a good one at that. Excessive use of Dawn can dry out and dull your paint. Using it infrequently isn't really a problem, but when you think about it, it offers nothing towards the finish of your car. PROPER prep, such as polishing using Menzerna, 3M, or Meguiars polishes will yield FAR AND AWAY greater results than washing with dawn. If you talk to some of the Zaino users here who are adamant about perfection, I'm sure you'll find that they probably use 3M or some equivalent polish to prep the paint beforehand. I'm a Zaino user (on light color cars) and I NEVER use Dawn. I always polish using Menzerna Intensive and Final Polish and then go straight to Zaino (after removing the polish residues with a 50/50 water/alcohol mix)

Bottom line here - Dawn washing is a bottom of the barrel slackers way of prepping a car. It does nothing except strip waxes off of your imperfect finish so that you can slather on some Zaino over all of your existing imperfections. A properly prepped car waxed with $5 Turtle Wax will look better than a dawn washed car covered in Zaino. Don't believe me? Bring your car to me and I'll prove you wrong.

-T

ZaneO

Very well put, Tom. The doubters are still going to be there...some out of ignorance and some out of pure stupidity.

You need to come around more often