CMX Spray Ceramic?
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CMX Spray Ceramic? I'm new to the whole ceramic thing and it's time for the fall polish/wax on the G8. I was in O'Reilly's the other day and saw several brands of "spray ceramic". Mother's in particular is a pretty reputable company. Would that product potentially be any good, or is it likely just more parts store mass market nonsense?
If you are talking about CMX then it has been proven for an easy application but it falls short of the long term durability claim from Mothers. Users have been getting about on average 3 months of protection. The benefit to it is that you can use it as often as you like as it is a spray and wipe product. They will be releasing some new products to the CMX line that they announced at SEMA one being a polish and prep for their CMX spray coating.
If you are interested in another alternative, Turtle Wax announced their new hybrid solutions ceramic line. I have not used any of their products but youtubers have started to post their videos about it. Apex Detailing for example has a video on their spray coating and polish & wax products that are designed to work together. They are intended to be user friendly.
One thing to keep in mind is that prepping the surface prior to polishing and protecting is key. I mean claying.
Are you planning to polish by hand or machine?
If you are interested in another alternative, Turtle Wax announced their new hybrid solutions ceramic line. I have not used any of their products but youtubers have started to post their videos about it. Apex Detailing for example has a video on their spray coating and polish & wax products that are designed to work together. They are intended to be user friendly.
One thing to keep in mind is that prepping the surface prior to polishing and protecting is key. I mean claying.
Are you planning to polish by hand or machine?
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Yes, I'm referring to CMX.
I'm looking for a durable, long lasting great shine - just about what anyone else would want. The car is black, so you know what that means. (I begged my wife not to buy a black car, to no avail). We try to avoid driving it in weather.
I've used Zaino, various "poly" products, and most recently gone back to Meguiar's #7 polish followed by #26 yellow wax. All of the above typically last me about six months.
I've clayed it in the past, but not in the last several times. I have Pinnacle and Zaino Fusion paint cleaners on hand and use a Porter Cable DA buffer.
I was thinking to perhaps do a round with paint cleaner, then #7, and then apply a ceramic finish if that makes sense.
I'm looking for a durable, long lasting great shine - just about what anyone else would want. The car is black, so you know what that means. (I begged my wife not to buy a black car, to no avail). We try to avoid driving it in weather.
I've used Zaino, various "poly" products, and most recently gone back to Meguiar's #7 polish followed by #26 yellow wax. All of the above typically last me about six months.
I've clayed it in the past, but not in the last several times. I have Pinnacle and Zaino Fusion paint cleaners on hand and use a Porter Cable DA buffer.
I was thinking to perhaps do a round with paint cleaner, then #7, and then apply a ceramic finish if that makes sense.
I’m skeptical of the spray on applications but am recently a true believer in the ceramic coating in general. I recently applied some of Adams polishes ceramic paint coating to my work truck which gets driven in any and all weather no matter what and when time for a cleaning really took some time to get it reasonably clean. To the point where I would spend almost an entire day cleaning the truck. I heard the hype of the ceramic coating and decided to do it myself. The process was easier and simpler in my opinion than generally waxing a car. Since the truck is sliver and relatively new the paint doesn’t show flaws easy and I use it heavily for work, so I want concerned with the paint being perfect or corrected so I simply clay barred it and applied the coating. I was simply amazed at the clarity and gloss it added to the truck and more importantly how easy it is to keep clean. I literally have not used soap or a sponge to clean it since the application over 6 months ago. I stop at any random self service car wash and blast it off with the pressure washer with just plain water and the truck is virtually clean, beads water off like it’s freshly waxed and I’ve even done this without drying at all due to time, and it’s looked almost as good. Only difference being a few water spots. I will ceramic coat every vehicle I own from now on just for this alone.
Yes, I'm referring to CMX.
I'm looking for a durable, long lasting great shine - just about what anyone else would want. The car is black, so you know what that means. (I begged my wife not to buy a black car, to no avail). We try to avoid driving it in weather.
I've used Zaino, various "poly" products, and most recently gone back to Meguiar's #7 polish followed by #26 yellow wax. All of the above typically last me about six months.
I've clayed it in the past, but not in the last several times. I have Pinnacle and Zaino Fusion paint cleaners on hand and use a Porter Cable DA buffer.
I was thinking to perhaps do a round with paint cleaner, then #7, and then apply a ceramic finish if that makes sense.
I'm looking for a durable, long lasting great shine - just about what anyone else would want. The car is black, so you know what that means. (I begged my wife not to buy a black car, to no avail). We try to avoid driving it in weather.
I've used Zaino, various "poly" products, and most recently gone back to Meguiar's #7 polish followed by #26 yellow wax. All of the above typically last me about six months.
I've clayed it in the past, but not in the last several times. I have Pinnacle and Zaino Fusion paint cleaners on hand and use a Porter Cable DA buffer.
I was thinking to perhaps do a round with paint cleaner, then #7, and then apply a ceramic finish if that makes sense.
Anything will last long though if a car spends its life in the garage.
One thing I forgot to mention is that it is recommended to do some sort of prep wipe post polish and prior to applying any type of coating product to remove any polishing oils. IPA has been used but it is not the greatest. Various manufactures offer a prep product such as CarPro Eraser. With that said M7 is not a good polish as it is heavy in oils which would not let the spray coating bond to its maximum. A paint cleaner is essentially a non-abrasive polish.
I also mentioned the new Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions products. Check those out.
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I use the cmx on my gto. I like it. I used it on my 2019 Silverado also. Seems to work good. I don’t know how long it lasts but I reapply it probably once every month or two because it’s very easy to apply and remove.
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I did a lot of reading and there are plenty of bad reviews on the CMX. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad product, but it may be that it has to be applied in a precise manner, and that may not always happen. The Turtle hybrids get good reviews, although there are far fewer of them.
I got started today by cleaning the paint with the Zaino Fusion - a mildly abrasive polish - with a heavier cutting pad. It definitely left residue, so I'll follow up with IPA, or better product if I can find one locally. Then on to one of the Turtle Wax hybrids. That's the plan as of now.
I got started today by cleaning the paint with the Zaino Fusion - a mildly abrasive polish - with a heavier cutting pad. It definitely left residue, so I'll follow up with IPA, or better product if I can find one locally. Then on to one of the Turtle Wax hybrids. That's the plan as of now.
I did a lot of reading and there are plenty of bad reviews on the CMX. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad product, but it may be that it has to be applied in a precise manner, and that may not always happen. The Turtle hybrids get good reviews, although there are far fewer of them.
I got started today by cleaning the paint with the Zaino Fusion - a mildly abrasive polish - with a heavier cutting pad. It definitely left residue, so I'll follow up with IPA, or better product if I can find one locally. Then on to one of the Turtle Wax hybrids. That's the plan as of now.
I got started today by cleaning the paint with the Zaino Fusion - a mildly abrasive polish - with a heavier cutting pad. It definitely left residue, so I'll follow up with IPA, or better product if I can find one locally. Then on to one of the Turtle Wax hybrids. That's the plan as of now.
the negative reviews are from people who didn’t bother reading the directions. If you spray it on the paint directly it will streak. If you follow directions on the bottle and spray it onto an applicator pad and rub it in. Let dry for 5 to 10 minutes and then wipe it off. It works perfectly. I washed my car today and it beaded up nicely. It was about two months ago I applied it last
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Because I didn't get on this in time to get it ordered and shipped here before the holiday weekend. I want to get this done while I have the free time. I thought to try the spray stuff for now and do the real deal for the Spring detailing.
the negative reviews are from people who didn’t bother reading the directions. If you spray it on the paint directly it will streak. If you follow directions on the bottle and spray it onto an applicator pad and rub it in. Let dry for 5 to 10 minutes and then wipe it off. It works perfectly. I washed my car today and it beaded up nicely. It was about two months ago I applied it last
Go on Autogeek and you will read what poor durability CMX has from enthusiast who applied it per the directions. It was an over hyped product on Autogeek that died off real fast once members started to share their lack luster experiences. The only benefit is that it can be applied as often as desired.
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CMX is the only product of this sort I could find locally, so I bought a bottle and am going to try it. I didn't have to mortgage the farm to purchase it.
I'm looking for something harder, clearer, and more repellent than the wax I've been using, which tends to get suffused with grime over time, white residue in seams and imperfections, etc.
It sounds like this product is almost as easy to use as spray detailer. If that's the case, and it only lasts 2-3 months, no big deal. Just re-apply.
A lot of the negative experiences happened to guys who sprayed it directly on the paint. Looking forward to getting to the application tomorrow morning! We shall see how it looks and how it holds up.
I'm looking for something harder, clearer, and more repellent than the wax I've been using, which tends to get suffused with grime over time, white residue in seams and imperfections, etc.
It sounds like this product is almost as easy to use as spray detailer. If that's the case, and it only lasts 2-3 months, no big deal. Just re-apply.
A lot of the negative experiences happened to guys who sprayed it directly on the paint. Looking forward to getting to the application tomorrow morning! We shall see how it looks and how it holds up.
CMX is the only product of this sort I could find locally, so I bought a bottle and am going to try it. I didn't have to mortgage the farm to purchase it.
I'm looking for something harder, clearer, and more repellent than the wax I've been using, which tends to get suffused with grime over time, white residue in seams and imperfections, etc.
It sounds like this product is almost as easy to use as spray detailer. If that's the case, and it only lasts 2-3 months, no big deal. Just re-apply.
A lot of the negative experiences happened to guys who sprayed it directly on the paint. Looking forward to getting to the application tomorrow morning! We shall see how it looks and how it holds up.
I'm looking for something harder, clearer, and more repellent than the wax I've been using, which tends to get suffused with grime over time, white residue in seams and imperfections, etc.
It sounds like this product is almost as easy to use as spray detailer. If that's the case, and it only lasts 2-3 months, no big deal. Just re-apply.
A lot of the negative experiences happened to guys who sprayed it directly on the paint. Looking forward to getting to the application tomorrow morning! We shall see how it looks and how it holds up.
you make a good point. It doesn’t have that crap that builds up in crevices and no powder residue. Big plus in my opinion. And it’s super easy to apply. And doesn’t leave those waxy streaks. It wipes off really easy. Just make sure you let it dry for 5-10 minutes.
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the negative reviews are from people who didn’t bother reading the directions. If you spray it on the paint directly it will streak. If you follow directions on the bottle and spray it onto an applicator pad and rub it in. Let dry for 5 to 10 minutes and then wipe it off. It works perfectly. I washed my car today and it beaded up nicely. It was about two months ago I applied it last
My take is that application is not quite as easy as detail spray, but as polishes and waxes go, quite easy. I found that hand application and removal was best. The directions say to rub it in until it disappears; it's sort of like applying Windex where you wipe until you don't see streaks anymore. Then when it's time to go over it, there's hardly anything to remove.
That's the CMX report so far. Durability is the only question now. I'll bring this one back when the finish starts to fail for a final report.