Was using cleaner wax today...
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Was using cleaner wax today... My camaro is all torn apart for a 5.3 build. Its always garaged and bought a new cover for it the other day and cleaned it off and used some Meguiars cleaner wax on it. I noticed on my door areas its leaving a hazy shine. Doesnt matter how much or less I apply or how hard I rub by hand.. Even tried their detailer spray and it helped a tiny bit but its still there and a few sprays makes no difference. Rest of the car looks great. This is also a 26 year old car but the paint is in great shape. Anyone know anything I can use Meguiars wise by hand to fix this? Why did this happen?
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My camaro is all torn apart for a 5.3 build. Its always garaged and bought a new cover for it the other day and cleaned it off and used some Meguiars cleaner wax on it. I noticed on my door areas its leaving a hazy shine. Doesnt matter how much or less I apply or how hard I rub by hand.. Even tried their detailer spray and it helped a tiny bit but its still there and a few sprays makes no difference. Rest of the car looks great. This is also a 26 year old car but the paint is in great shape. Anyone know anything I can use Meguiars wise by hand to fix this? Why did this happen?
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From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
Just to be clear on the issue, are you saying that the haziness only appeared after you applied the product? How did that section of paint look prior? How do the hazy areas of paint feel to the touch (i.e. do they feel less smooth than the non-hazy areas, or is this just a visual issue)? Is there any chance that this door was repainted at some point?
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It has a rough feeling to it not soft and no the car has never had any repainting done to it. Yes it appeared from waxing it. Almost like to much wax in that area not buffed off. But there is no wax not buffed off.
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It must need polished as it hasnt been in 15 years or more. Was covered for years so I assume the cleaner wax is just built up in certain areas and maybe has scratched it or something. Will pick up some polish next time Im out and see what happens.
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From: Schiller Park, ILL Member: #317
Sounds like that area of paint is damaged in some way. Most off-the-shelf cleaner waxes are pretty harmless unless you're applying them to a dirty or damaged surface, or perhaps it removed a previous coating of a gloss enhancer which was somewhat masking the issue.
Hard to tell what's really going on without seeing it in person, but if you applied the same product in the same way to the whole car and this was the only area to have an issue, then it's not from any "build up" or other problem with the product itself, the problem must be with that section of paint and how it responded to the product. You could try washing the area with (good quality) dish soap and a soft cloth/sponge just to make sure you've removed all residue and then re-evaluate. If there is still previous residue on the surface, then anything else you apply in an attempt to "restore" the paint will be less effective.
Hard to tell what's really going on without seeing it in person, but if you applied the same product in the same way to the whole car and this was the only area to have an issue, then it's not from any "build up" or other problem with the product itself, the problem must be with that section of paint and how it responded to the product. You could try washing the area with (good quality) dish soap and a soft cloth/sponge just to make sure you've removed all residue and then re-evaluate. If there is still previous residue on the surface, then anything else you apply in an attempt to "restore" the paint will be less effective.
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Just got a electric buffer but it needs a new pad so will see if I can find one as old buffer and will try some polish and see what happens. When I look closely it just surface oxidation it didnt go into the clear so maybe even a clay bar.
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Well I found some other small spots and looking at the paint you would never know until at a certain angle you see a haze. Its kinda rough to the touch but its not clear coat failure as I buffed a some away but the top door areas wont come completely smooth.
I'm guessing the clear is starting to break down from age or sun damage. I had some spots that looked fine but had a bit of texture and once sanded smoothed out.. Pretty much clearcoat was starting to go.
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Thats the thing I tried to take pics and you cant see it in the pictures and camera phone.. Its all apart on jack stands so cant pull it out of the garage. Definitely not clear coat failing as have seen that on cars before. Must just be stains and oxidation on the paint. Like I mentioned it sat for years in a carport with two car covers on it and was never washed or waxed. Sides of the car port were open in spots so rain hit the door and probably never dried well with two covers. One was a outdoor that was odd and other a indoor.
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What kind of buffer do you have... a rotary with a wool pad (can be dangerous)... a dual action with like a 6" backing plate or the old fashion buffer with two handles and a terry cloth bonnet? Also what polish are you going to use? The old style two handle wobble type buffer that uses a terry cloth bonnet is not strong enough to abrade the clear coat to remove all the oxidation.
You want to start out with the least aggressive pad & product to achieve a satisfactory finish. After claying a dual action buffer with a medium cut polishing pad is a good place to start. I'm guessing you probably don't have any professional products on the shelf??? If so I'd start with Meguiars Ultimate Compound which can be purchased off the shelf at Autozone, Walmart etc. The Ultimate has about the same cut as Meguires M205 so it's not that aggressive plus it finishes down very well. If that brings back the gloss and you feel the need to squeeze out a little more... finish with their Ultimate Polish.
I tend to use other polishes as my "go to" but those two mentioned above are always on my detail cart
You want to start out with the least aggressive pad & product to achieve a satisfactory finish. After claying a dual action buffer with a medium cut polishing pad is a good place to start. I'm guessing you probably don't have any professional products on the shelf??? If so I'd start with Meguiars Ultimate Compound which can be purchased off the shelf at Autozone, Walmart etc. The Ultimate has about the same cut as Meguires M205 so it's not that aggressive plus it finishes down very well. If that brings back the gloss and you feel the need to squeeze out a little more... finish with their Ultimate Polish.
I tend to use other polishes as my "go to" but those two mentioned above are always on my detail cart
