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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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I am getting together supplies to rejuvenate my paint on the TA. I have some questions. First off what I want to do is totally detail the paint and have a really deep shine and mirror like reflection. I want the finish to turn heads like a show car. Well heres what I am planning on doing at this point.

Dawn wash
Claybar
Zaino Z7 wash
Menzerna twins w/ pc
Zaino Z7 wash
3 coats of Zaino Z2pro and Z6 detailing spray
Zaino Z8 detailing spray
Carnuba Wax?

If anybody has better product suggestions for the finish that I am looking for dont hesitate to recommend them. All I have as of right now is the Zaino stuff. I am supposed to use a carnuba wax last right? I have no idea of what brand of carnuba wax to use so please suggest one. Thanks
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 01:59 AM
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sounds good as long as the paint and car are in good shape
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 06:51 AM
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Your process, with some tips from me.

Dawn wash - I'm not a big fan of washing the car with Dawn. A regular wash will work fine here, because the claybar will take care of old wax and dirt.
Claybar - Use plenty of detailing spray/soap lubricant.
Zaino Z7 wash - No problems here.
Menzerna twins w/ pc - Assuming orange pad for IP and white pad for FP2.
Zaino Z7 wash - Not necessary. Zaino can be applied directly on the polish.
Glaze - A good glaze will add depth and brilliance to your paint. 3M Imperial Hand Glaze, Menzerna Finishing Touch Glaze or either Meguiars #3 or #7 are excellent choices. Apply with the PC and a red or black pad. Remember, a little goes a long way!
3 coats of Zaino Z2pro and Z6 detailing spray - Assuming you mean Z2pro/Z6, Z2pro/Z6, Z2pro/Z6 layers. No problems here.
Zaino Z8 detailing spray - Haven't used it, but I hear good things.
Carnuba Wax - Not necessary, but never hurts. I've used Meguiars #26 with good results.


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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chupr0kabra
Your process, with some tips from me.

Dawn wash - I'm not a big fan of washing the car with Dawn. A regular wash will work fine here, because the claybar will take care of old wax and dirt.
Claybar - Use plenty of detailing spray/soap lubricant.
Zaino Z7 wash - No problems here.
Menzerna twins w/ pc - Assuming orange pad for IP and white pad for FP2.
Zaino Z7 wash - Not necessary. Zaino can be applied directly on the polish.
Glaze - A good glaze will add depth and brilliance to your paint. 3M Imperial Hand Glaze, Menzerna Finishing Touch Glaze or either Meguiars #3 or #7 are excellent choices. Apply with the PC and a red or black pad. Remember, a little goes a long way!
3 coats of Zaino Z2pro and Z6 detailing spray - Assuming you mean Z2pro/Z6, Z2pro/Z6, Z2pro/Z6 layers. No problems here.
Zaino Z8 detailing spray - Haven't used it, but I hear good things.
Carnuba Wax - Not necessary, but never hurts. I've used Meguiars #26 with good results.


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First to answer a previous question about the condition of the paint heres a pic:



These are the closest pics I have and although they arent very close it might give you an idea. I would probably rate paint a 7or8 outta 10.

What does the glaze do? Does it leave anything on the paint because I thought that Zaino had to be applied directly to the paint so it could bond properly? And yes the way you wrote the z2pro and z6 is what I meant. Might go with six coats for more shine and protection as I will be doing this over a weeks time span.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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Glaze adds another layer of shine between the polish and the sealant. I've applied Z2 to a glazed surface with no problems and no decrease in durability. The fact is, by the time you apply the FP2, you will have some filler materials between the paint surface and the sealant.


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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Sounds good. I wash with the dawn only before I wax to help strip the old wax off. Yes yes that is what the claybar is for too. But the dawn helps out the process.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Don't bother with the Dawn wash. Seriously.

If the clay bar doesn't take all the old crap off, the IP/FP2 polishes will. Guaranteed.
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I don't think Zaino is going to stick to any glaze very well.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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Debatable, but then my OCD doesn't allow me to let it sit for too long without re-applying anyway.


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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Do not put a carnuba wax over zaino. It will only dull it because the zaino is a polish, zaino over the carnuba if u got ur heart on it.

Also if you want you can throw a sealant glaze on there. It will give everything a deep solid shine. That goes on before any wax or zaino. You need however 24 hours in a dust free area, any garage will really work as long as its not outside. Then apply all ur waxes and ish over that.

Another helpful tip is to apply in thin light coats and then u could hit it with a buffer for utlra smooth feel. good luck and post some pics.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lt14mla
Do not put a carnuba wax over zaino. It will only dull it because the zaino is a polish, zaino over the carnuba if u got ur heart on it.

Also if you want you can throw a sealant glaze on there. It will give everything a deep solid shine. That goes on before any wax or zaino. You need however 24 hours in a dust free area, any garage will really work as long as its not outside. Then apply all ur waxes and ish over that.

Another helpful tip is to apply in thin light coats and then u could hit it with a buffer for utlra smooth feel. good luck and post some pics.
Don't listen to this guy. Well, most of it.

You can put any wax you want over Zaino. It'll work fine, and it'll most likely increase the depth, but reduce the mirror reflections. Zaino isn't a polish, zaino is a sealant.

"Sealant glaze" isn't a real term. That's the name of Klasse's final step sealant. Putting a glaze on will slightly improve the depth and gloss of the look, but Zaino probably won't bond over one due to the oils in them. You don't need 24 hours at all, either. You can top a glaze immediately after it's removed. They generally work just like waxes.

Light coats, yes. But removing with a buffer won't change anything.
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