the FIRST black ss with sunoco and tt2s... yeaaa
lowering a car you get worse traction.
Period.
If you dont believe me.. go to Strano and Ask Sam himself.
I think your car looks sick bro. yeah yeah yeah about the lowering.. i am a fan of that as well but its YOUR car and if you love to race then by all means.. keep that bitch sitting high.
Alot of people post things on this board without a CLUE as to what they are talking about.
Lower the car and your times get worse.. your 60 suffers.. The camaro is pretty aerodynamic already. You are not running a big rig or a chevy II
Keep up the good work with the car. Cant wait to see it with a stroker!
The only thing I will say is this.. I like the line up the middle more than the flat look. It seems like there is a flat spot on the camaro now. But hey bro.. if you like it.. THATS ALL THAT MATTERS!
Period.
If you dont believe me.. go to Strano and Ask Sam himself.
I think your car looks sick bro. yeah yeah yeah about the lowering.. i am a fan of that as well but its YOUR car and if you love to race then by all means.. keep that bitch sitting high.
Alot of people post things on this board without a CLUE as to what they are talking about.
Lower the car and your times get worse.. your 60 suffers.. The camaro is pretty aerodynamic already. You are not running a big rig or a chevy II
Keep up the good work with the car. Cant wait to see it with a stroker!
The only thing I will say is this.. I like the line up the middle more than the flat look. It seems like there is a flat spot on the camaro now. But hey bro.. if you like it.. THATS ALL THAT MATTERS!
for sure thanks guys, i will be ordering some halos actualy , really dont want to stick my lights in the oven.. haha but ya halos !! the rims are 17 by 9.5 and 17 by 11
ohh ya i flipped a coin for seemless or not lol.. i think i like non seemless better
ohh ya i flipped a coin for seemless or not lol.. i think i like non seemless better
That looks friggin' sweet. 
I've only seen that hood in Turquiose 
until now. It definitely belongs on a black Camaro. Next to the stock SS hood, that one by far is above all others. As far as lowering the car… whatever. I don't race at all but, I did put DMS and Konies on mine this past summer and my traction did suffer. I turn a corner from a standing start and easily get wheel spin with traction control on. I've got 17 x 9.5's on all fours of mine. I don't know how it would affect your race set-up but, I'll bet some 18's and some meatier tires would look mean as hell as well as shut everybody up about lowering your car. I've never really liked the "oversize wheel with the low profile tire" look and I'm sure it sucks for racing but, if you did 18's, man… your car would look evil as hell. 
I've only seen that hood in Turquiose until now. It definitely belongs on a black Camaro. Next to the stock SS hood, that one by far is above all others. As far as lowering the car… whatever. I don't race at all but, I did put DMS and Konies on mine this past summer and my traction did suffer. I turn a corner from a standing start and easily get wheel spin with traction control on. I've got 17 x 9.5's on all fours of mine. I don't know how it would affect your race set-up but, I'll bet some 18's and some meatier tires would look mean as hell as well as shut everybody up about lowering your car. I've never really liked the "oversize wheel with the low profile tire" look and I'm sure it sucks for racing but, if you did 18's, man… your car would look evil as hell. 
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Congratulations on getting rid of the SS hood. You'll probably get more dragstrip performance from your VFN Sunoco hood than the played-out poser factory SS hood. 
That hood looks great. I like the way it's rounded--looks more subtle compared to the angular VFN cowl induction hood. Is that a 2-inch rise on the hood?
That hood looks great. I like the way it's rounded--looks more subtle compared to the angular VFN cowl induction hood. Is that a 2-inch rise on the hood? It looks good, but I think it would look better with a small drop. Maybe it's just me, but I'd never hear the end of the 4x4 and 4 wheel drive comments. I agree though, I build me car for my appreciation and not others. I'm definately not Mr. bling. It all depends on how "hardcore" of a drag racer as to whether to drop it or not. Just remember there are lots of fast LS1's that are lowered. You could lower your car a little bit without a huge detriment to your 1/4 mile times. The car does look good though.
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Verdad Gallardo actually it might be 3 1/ 2 almopst postive messured it... but ya cool thankx for the comments appriate it cant wait for the 408 wow..........anyway i tried to race a bright orange lambo today but im sure all of you know how that goes noo way he didnt want to have any part however he told me that it was the best looking ss camaro he has seen around town......that was cool his car was sooo sweet!!
i agree with you damon that is why i got rid of it played out ss no ofence to people that still have it ,dont get me wrong there sweet , tomany people have them 0or want them soo this was the only other hood i would ever think about putting on it!!
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looks great!
and for what its worth... my car is dropped on stock shocks and the ride quality didnt suffer. too many people will tell you its going to goto hell, but how many of them have actually dropped the car w/ stock shocks? true it may not be perfect, but its not bad at all.
and for what its worth... my car is dropped on stock shocks and the ride quality didnt suffer. too many people will tell you its going to goto hell, but how many of them have actually dropped the car w/ stock shocks? true it may not be perfect, but its not bad at all.
Lowering a car only affects weight transfer when launching at the track. But, simply saying "lowering a car will hurt traction" is not exactly a true statement.
If you have enough tire under the car, and enough power, and your rear suspension geometry is correct, lowering it will not affect traction. In fact, lowering these cars makes them more stable at higher speed, especially on cars that run 10s or quicker.
If you have enough tire under the car, and enough power, and your rear suspension geometry is correct, lowering it will not affect traction. In fact, lowering these cars makes them more stable at higher speed, especially on cars that run 10s or quicker.
The car looks sweet lowered or not....if you start doing what everyone tells you to you will end up with another generic "clone". Its the small differences that set your car apart, that will make it yours. And no matter how awesome your ride is you will find always someone hating something of it.....keep it up!!!
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
Lowering a car only affects weight transfer when launching at the track. But, simply saying "lowering a car will hurt traction" is not exactly a true statement.
If you have enough tire under the car, and enough power, and your rear suspension geometry is correct, lowering it will not affect traction. In fact, lowering these cars makes them more stable at higher speed, especially on cars that run 10s or quicker.
If you have enough tire under the car, and enough power, and your rear suspension geometry is correct, lowering it will not affect traction. In fact, lowering these cars makes them more stable at higher speed, especially on cars that run 10s or quicker.
- you won't feel that it's necessary to buy an adjustable panhard rod to recenter the rear-end;
- you won't feel that it's necessary to buy adjustable lower control arm brackets to align your rear control arm angle;
- you won't feel that it's necessary to get a front-end alignment;
- you won't feel it necessary to buy expensive bigger rims and tires to compliment the lowered look of the car;
- you're saving yourself more than $200 by not having to buy lowering springs and thousands of dollars more by not having to buy the other parts/service mentioned above and having those parts installed;
Of course, the reasons I mentioned above may not apply to TondSS as he might already have done any of the things mentioned above even without lowering, but they're definitely the reasons why I'm not getting my car lowered. I've also used the word feel just to point out that the part or service might not even be required and could even be subjective.
Last edited by damon_Z; Oct 9, 2005 at 10:06 AM.
here are a few more pics i didnt post ...the hood should be all done by thursday or wensday depending on what day i drop it off on..
Last edited by TondSS; Oct 9, 2005 at 12:41 PM.
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that is a great hood...and the car looks great. I loved mine stock height, but I love it more dropped 1.5" ...BUT there are times I wish I didn't, like every speed bump I have to crawl over carefully. It is just that when you get used to looking at them low, then stock looks high.
Your car will look so smooth fully painted. Sinister Solid Black is cool. Especially with the TTII's
Any plans for other accent colors? I painted my calipers red on a white SS and they jump out now...only accent color there so they really stand out. Any color would look hot with black.
Can't go wrong with Black...gorgeous.
Your car will look so smooth fully painted. Sinister Solid Black is cool. Especially with the TTII's
Any plans for other accent colors? I painted my calipers red on a white SS and they jump out now...only accent color there so they really stand out. Any color would look hot with black.
Can't go wrong with Black...gorgeous.