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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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Lightbulb My thoughts on the berger panel...

I know there have been several "berger panel" threads but I thought I would add my own. Personally I like the idea of it, but I think the current way its done just falls short of really looking good. I know ideas are like ******** yadda yadda, but it just doesnt look right to me. It looks incomplete. I like how its done on Mach 1's but looks out of place on Camaros. So, I've done some quick photoshopping and came up with this.... Id make this a poll but I dunno how what do you guys think?
Contemporary Berger:


My Berger idea:


I know the that if you put a straight line between the bottom of the two tail lights, the bottom of "camaro" goes below the line. So I know this exact idea isnt feasable unless you either shave the "camaro" or paint the berger to encompass it.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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ehh i don't really like it
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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Mainly why some berger style panels don't look that great is because of exactly what you posted, a plain panel with no other dress up.

Compare mine to the one above which do you think looks better?

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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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Without a black roof it looks alittle more out of place. I think gloss black with aluminium fill ins looks the best. I just picked up and extra rear panel to do it with. If it doesn't look right I'll just dump it.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AW/whiteZ-28
Compare mine to the one above which do you think looks better?

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Looks alot better I agree, but its still missing something. It just doesnt flow to me...
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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I agree with GM. Black roof cars look great with the panel. And yes, just having a random black panel does look incomplete, it needs a camaro fill in or a centered Z28 or some other emblem to really look good.

That's an interesting idea, but IMO it would be hard as hell to do, and kind of looks like a camaro tubetop. call me crazy.

EDIT: oh and crazymike is right. That car is missing an SS spoiler to really look badass.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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I think it looks good, but it really depends on how the rest of your car looks.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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I also thought of that idea a couple of years ago, seeing as it seems to flow a bit better between the taillights. But the beauty of the Berger mod is that it can be done at your home with the proper materials. The one you've posted is more of a custom job, seeing as you have to paint part of the bottom of the hatch.

Good idea, but I like the current Berger way.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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the 2nd pic you posted is my old car.........
this is how I finished it
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick'SSOM
the 2nd pic you posted is my old car.........
???????
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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this one

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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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Well... I think any camaro WITHOUT the berger mod looks incomplete to me :shrug: To each their own...
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick'SSOM
the 2nd pic you posted is my old car.........
this is how I finished it
really? I randomly found it off of cardomain! I hope you dont mind me using it
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 01:07 AM
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Berger panels makes me think someone went to the junk yard, picked up some junk panel, and didn't paint it and threw it on their car.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by kraaazymike
My Berger idea:
To me that looks really sweet! Unlike the Berger, the paint doesn't stop abruptly. It blends in with the tail lights. I've seen a few C5's with a similar scheme like that one you made.


Originally Posted by meissenation
Berger panels makes me think someone went to the junk yard, picked up some junk panel, and didn't paint it and threw it on their car.
Yup! I feel the same damn way. It looks like you had a wreck and you could not find the right color OR with it being flat back it looks like a raw black plastic piece that you could not afford to get painted.


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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 03:53 AM
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i still like the traditional berger panel mod, the way its supposed to be done...it looks weird the way u did it.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 07:14 AM
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I think more so, I'm just tired of seeing the hundreds of people that have done it anymore. I used to get sick of seeing everyone buying SS hood, y2k rims, SS spoiler, lowering the car and then calling it "finished," but the berger mod is 10 fold more overdone because it's so cheap (paint cost, etc). Dunno, I used to like it a couple years ago, but I'd never do the actual berger mod now because too many people have done it. It's gone way too mainstream. Sucks when you go to an FBody event, and half of the cars all have berger panels.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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i gota saw aw/whitez28's berger is by far my favorite
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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I don't particularly care for how the Berger panel abruptly ends on the edges either. But I don't see any other way to make it look right (rounded ends wouldn't look right either).

One day it'll be an uncommon sight to see a fourth-gen Camaro that doesn't have this mod.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by meissenation
I think more so, I'm just tired of seeing the hundreds of people that have done it anymore. I used to get sick of seeing everyone buying SS hood, y2k rims, SS spoiler, lowering the car and then calling it "finished," but the berger mod is 10 fold more overdone because it's so cheap (paint cost, etc). Dunno, I used to like it a couple years ago, but I'd never do the actual berger mod now because too many people have done it. It's gone way too mainstream. Sucks when you go to an FBody event, and half of the cars all have berger panels.
It looks good, and is easy to do, therefore why not do it? If it looks better with the Berger panel than without it (IMO it does look better), who cares what everyone else is doing?

IMO, it looks best the way it was intended to be done. The other way puts it to high up on the rear of the car. I do agree that finishing it off with fill ins and some accents really does add to it though.
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