Read this, your making me crazy...
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Originally Posted by sdm1234
Incorrect. That's just like saying if I shower twice a day and keep myself clean 24/7, I'll never catch a disease, so it's a waste of time taking my multi-vitamins. The clay bar removes more than you think it would, even if it is constantly cleaned. Cleaning it even adds contaminants, to an extent... but still, my point stands true.
So, to correct the quote, I'll say, "Clay is good even if the finish has very little contaminants. It is never a waste of time."
So, to correct the quote, I'll say, "Clay is good even if the finish has very little contaminants. It is never a waste of time."
Clay bars are great, don't get me wrong, but on a light contaminated surface, most times you can correct it without going that route. It won't hurt anything by using it regularly, but why do so if you don't need to?
Originally Posted by MrPongoSS
I stand behind what I said. Very true that you can add contaiminates to washing, etc., but those are very much correctable with a good paint cleaner (compound) and polish/sealant.
Clay bars are great, don't get me wrong, but on a light contaminated surface, most times you can correct it without going that route. It won't hurt anything by using it regularly, but why do so if you don't need to?
Clay bars are great, don't get me wrong, but on a light contaminated surface, most times you can correct it without going that route. It won't hurt anything by using it regularly, but why do so if you don't need to?
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mc01ta: You poor bastard. You have no idea what you're getting yourself into. 
Good overall guide. I'm casually planning some follow-ups to my Porter Cable FAQ in the coming months. First I need to buy a canopy, so I can dry the car before the water spots set in. After that, I have a few guides planned using more illustrations this time.
Anyone in Houston want to help?
-Mike
Good overall guide. I'm casually planning some follow-ups to my Porter Cable FAQ in the coming months. First I need to buy a canopy, so I can dry the car before the water spots set in. After that, I have a few guides planned using more illustrations this time.
Anyone in Houston want to help?
-Mike
Originally Posted by chupr0kabra
mc01ta: You poor bastard. You have no idea what you're getting yourself into.
Good overall guide. I'm casually planning some follow-ups to my Porter Cable FAQ in the coming months. First I need to buy a canopy, so I can dry the car before the water spots set in. After that, I have a few guides planned using more illustrations this time.
Anyone in Houston want to help?
-Mike
Good overall guide. I'm casually planning some follow-ups to my Porter Cable FAQ in the coming months. First I need to buy a canopy, so I can dry the car before the water spots set in. After that, I have a few guides planned using more illustrations this time.
Anyone in Houston want to help?
-Mike
What canopy do you have in mind? I grabbed one of those cheap ones from Wal Mart (10 x 10), and it works well at the house. I use it to extend the shade my garage provides, but I am not too fond of it when I am out and about working remotely.
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I'd be happy to help ..
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Originally Posted by Avengeance
I agree with you... I have a car that is barely driven... stays inside... doesnt see rain. When I was looking for clay I went to a really well respected shop to get my supplies, they told me for a surface thats not really contaminated, and since I was using some medium-high abrasives to start my process, that claying wasnt neccessary. My results were well... flawless.
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Originally Posted by mc01ta
Polish is used to remove swirls and small blemishes. By claying you wont have the scratches reappear because the polished was removed UNLESS it had fillers. I've been detailing for a long time (over 8 years) and learn new stuff everyday. But I can 100% confidently say I know this subject very, very well.
Ling_650vette, you are not correct, when I polish I can PERMANATELY REMOVE SWIRLS and SCRATCHES and when I clay after the polish isn't removed because the polish has already broken down and DISAPPEARED BUT it was used to enhance the paint's finish PERMANATELY.
Would you like me to go detail a dirty car, polish and take pictures then clay and take pictures and give you a tutorial? Billy Bad *** has just spoken...
Ling_650vette, you are not correct, when I polish I can PERMANATELY REMOVE SWIRLS and SCRATCHES and when I clay after the polish isn't removed because the polish has already broken down and DISAPPEARED BUT it was used to enhance the paint's finish PERMANATELY.
Would you like me to go detail a dirty car, polish and take pictures then clay and take pictures and give you a tutorial? Billy Bad *** has just spoken...
You're choosing to pick what you want out of the thread, and try to rip that apart. Someone with your expertise, I'd expect them to understand what Im trying to say.
Im sure other people feel differently on the fact that polish, and wax isnt permanent. But what do we know...
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Here's my wife's door:
Originally Posted by todddchi
"Your making me crazy" is improper grammer.
I mean if you're nitpicking about wax vs. polish then I'd think this would bother you as well.
j/k
I mean if you're nitpicking about wax vs. polish then I'd think this would bother you as well.
j/k
Originally Posted by BlackHawk T/A
Grammar*
My paint sucks, but going down the road, nobody can tell!
I have a weekend planned just to clean, clay, polish and wax and have been researching methods, materials and "NO-NO's"
This thread is very helpful, thanks!
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I'm glad it is helpful. The best part of detailing is it is alot like modding your car, you try many different combinations to get the most desireable results. Just like the thread "newbie mod mistakes" (faithful tech readers know what I'm talking about), we should have the same kind of thread in this forum to avoid all the crappy posting. The more you search, read and educate yourself the better your car will look. Most people aren't patient enough to hit that little itty bitty search button out laziness and want other people to answer everything for them. "whats the best wax, etc." drives me nuts! Glad some of you feel my pain as others seem to be num to education.
Originally Posted by mc01ta
Just like the thread "newbie mod mistakes" (faithful tech readers know what I'm talking about), we should have the same kind of thread in this forum to avoid all the crappy posting.
Originally Posted by mc01ta
Glad some of you feel my pain as others seem to be num to education.
Originally Posted by chaman
Got a question for mc01ta: whats the best method to keep my paint shiny???
...thanks...........
...thanks...........
I have to agree with hondo though.... dude should get off the horse. Not everyone knows what is what and thats why forums like this exist.
Calling people numb to education, when they are posting a question to begin with, is absolutely rediculous.... matter of fact it makes zero sense.
