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Old 12-04-2006 | 12:13 AM
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what bulbs will hook up to a stock 93-97 firebirds headlight harness? Ill cut my stock sealed beams and put new bulbs just need to know which one
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I am doing this 90mm projector mod but I am keeping the H9.

However...someone does make an HID kit for our cars now, AND is a site sponsor.

LS1_SS (Nate) at LEDGAUGES has kits for everyone. I have not got it myself, but I have bought some stuff from him and read up on the feedback of people who have. At the very least, you do not have to piece together an HID kit, he did all the work for you. Check it out.
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I know this thread is old but I need some help. I am doing a custom HID install. Does anyone know where I can get any projector headlght housings? Or any like the ones in JasonWW's post. Thanks.
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BTW, I've got everything out of a newer model acura TLl with D2R bulbs.
Old 04-28-2008 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by badazzta00
I know this thread is old but I need some help. I am doing a custom HID install. Does anyone know where I can get any projector headlght housings? Or any like the ones in JasonWW's post. Thanks.
It may be an old thread, but our headlights haven't changed.

I still don't know if your talking about a fixed headlight on just adding projectors to the stock flip ups. It you want it to look like this:

you'll need the Hella projector and then make your own mounting bracket.
The link to where to buy them is in post 2. The housings that accept the D2S bulb run $167 ea, but its cheaper to get the H9 projectors for $60 ea. and modify them to fit your HID bulb.

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www (dot) rallylights.com/hella/90mm_modules (dot) asp
We can't post a clickable link as they are not a sponsor here.
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I have the Hella 90mm H9 projectors and a 4300K HID kit in them. They are a definite improvement over stock, but there are options with better light output (ex: FX, TSX, S2K, LS430.... unfortunately, they all require much more custom work). I went with the Hella 90mm H9 projectors because they have decent output and are the easiest to mount in the 1998-2002 Firebird. If I were to do it again, I'd give the FX a second look and try to figure out a way to enclose them (SCRWS6 did use them, but he didn't seal them up as well as I'd like).

You can see my install and others in the Lighting FAQ:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearance-detailing/710357-lighting-faq.html
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That Black TA looks badazz! Im just looking for a flip up housing to be able to use my D2S kit. Is the D2S an HID kit? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by badazzta00
That Black TA looks badazz! Im just looking for a flip up housing to be able to use my D2S kit. Is the D2S an HID kit? Thanks.
It's a bulb size, just like your D2R bulbs.
There is a list of bulbs here.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ulb_types.html

Basically the D2R is the same as the D2S except it has a sheild covering one part of the bulbs output. It was designed for OEM reflector housings, not projectors. It should still work, though. It's' just that you lose a little output due to the sheild.

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On my car I decided to cut out the entire upper + lower radiator braces. This means I have all the depth I need to mount whatever projector I want.
I've already got Some E46 units which are super sharp, but I think I'd rather buy some bi-xenon units than convert these to hi and low beam.

So now with depth not a factor, do you guys have any recommendations?
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Would it be a good idea if I used a D2S bulb with a hella 90mm projector?
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Originally Posted by badazzta00
Would it be a good idea if I used a D2S bulb with a hella 90mm projector?
That's what most people have done. Look at skytowers page for info on making the bulb fit.
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skytowers page? whats that?
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Look at Post 47. VIP1 posted a link to everyones webpage. Scroll down that page and post 5 has all the people who have projectors.
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Good to see my info is still alive and well.
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With the Hella 90mm H9 projectors you can modify them to use D2S HID bulbs or use a H9 HID kit.

D2S is a real HID bulb (also D2R, D1S, D1R, D4S, D4R --- S = Intended for HID Projector housing, R = Intended for HID Reflector housing). All the other numbers (H7, H9, 880, etc) are halogen part numbers. HID kits that use that number are rebased, meaning its a HID capsule with the base of a halogen bulb so that it fits where the halogen bulb used to fit. Putting HID into a halogen reflector housing is usually a bad idea because you'll usually get a bad beam pattern and glare. Putting HID into a halogen projector can work (sometimes very well), but you give up some beam width. HID in an HID projector is the optimal solution, but typically costs more or is the most work (custom retrofit).

There is a lot more to discuss on this topic. Check out the university section on www<dot>hidplanet<dot>com/forums/. I'm on there too with the same screen name.

You might also want to check out the following topics in the Lighting FAQ:
* Headlight Upgrades - General Info
* Projectors - Firebird

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Old 04-29-2008 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
Look at Post 47. VIP1 posted a link to everyones webpage. Scroll down that page and post 5 has all the people who have projectors.
If there are any more installs, let me know and I'll add them to the list.
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Digging up this thread from the dead yet again since I'm in the process of retrofitting E46 bixenon projectors in my 1994 Trans Am. I'm looking at using H7 or H9 bulbs until I can afford HIDs. Can anyone tell me, with pictures preferably, exactly what I would have to modify on the bulb to sit in the E46 projectors? Jason's original post mentions he is using H7 bulbs in E46 projectors, but I would really like to use H9 bulbs instead since they are much brighter.
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There is also an Osram Hyper H7 which is a H9 capsule on a H7 base. You might want to look into that.

Also, I don't know how an H7 can be made to fit in place of a D2S. Maybe that particular E46 projector had an H7 socket or a replaceable socket that could be swapped to accommodate a H7 or D2S.
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Originally Posted by VIP1
There is also an Osram Hyper H7 which is a H9 capsule on a H7 base. You might want to look into that.

Also, I don't know how an H7 can be made to fit in place of a D2S. Maybe that particular E46 projector had an H7 socket or a replaceable socket that could be swapped to accommodate a H7 or D2S.
I've heard about the rebased H9 but I'm kinda leaning towards the Nokya H7 6000K bulbs for now. Of course, all of this depends on what can actually fit in the D2S E46 projectors I'm working with. Hopefully, JasonWW will chime in sometime soon... I had sent him a PM earlier, still waiting on a reply.



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