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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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I'm new to the Porter-Cable scene, and I've been trying to remove wax w/ it. I have microfiber bonnets to remove the wax, and no matter what I do there's always so much wax left over that it would have been quicker to do by hand. I start with a clean bonnet, and right from the get-go it doesn't really take much of the wax off. I've tried giving the wax less time to dry, giving it more time to dry, applying a thinner coat of wax, speeds 1-6 on the buffer, more pressure, less pressure, going slow, going over an area multiple times, and probably stuff I can't remember. What am I doing wrong? Should I try some different bonnets?
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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to remove wax use flanel
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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What kind of wax are you removing? And is it only one coat?
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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The PC is much more suited to removing light defects, not necessarily removing waxes.

The bonnets only have so much surface area to remove the wax. Once it's saturated, there's nothing more for it to do; you'll have to switch it out.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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Just remove the wax by hand. It doesn't take long to do as long as you didn't put too much on
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by giant016
I'm new to the Porter-Cable scene, and I've been trying to remove wax w/ it. I have microfiber bonnets to remove the wax, and no matter what I do there's always so much wax left over that it would have been quicker to do by hand. I start with a clean bonnet, and right from the get-go it doesn't really take much of the wax off. I've tried giving the wax less time to dry, giving it more time to dry, applying a thinner coat of wax, speeds 1-6 on the buffer, more pressure, less pressure, going slow, going over an area multiple times, and probably stuff I can't remember. What am I doing wrong? Should I try some different bonnets?
first .. I would never use speed 6 for anything.

second, Zane is correct, most of the bonnets will fill/gum up, and make perfect removal impossible without multiple bonnet change out.

third.. how much wax are you applying, and is it ready to be removed when you start? does it remove correctly and easily with a MF towel by hand?

even though the bonnet may have limited removal stamina, it should do a fine job at the very beginning.. if it doesn't, then I would think something else is amiss .. as in wax too thick, not ready to remove, water running onto the work syrface from some trim, or something like that.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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I'd say you are applying too much wax in the first place. I only use two bonnets on a car. One to apply and one to take off. You always ahve to go over the car by hand to get into the nooks and crannys.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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I use my PC alot, but for removing wax, I just do it by hand using a couple of MF towels. One last chance to caress and fondle. I actually have a MF bonnet for the PC. I thought it would be good to do a good buffing after removing the wax by hand, but not sure. Any thoughts?
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Gipraw
first .. I would never use speed 6 for anything.
I use 6 when drying out wet pads. Hold the wet pad down in a bucket, turn on the polisher and rev up to 6. Spins the water right out of them. However, I don't think I could control it on a paint surface at that speed, and I'm not willing to try.


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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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I use speed 6 all the time when removing defects.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ZaneO
I use speed 6 all the time when removing defects.
who makes your backing plate ?
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chupr0kabra
I use 6 when drying out wet pads. Hold the wet pad down in a bucket, turn on the polisher and rev up to 6. Spins the water right out of them. However, I don't think I could control it on a paint surface at that speed, and I'm not willing to try.


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I do also .. was referring to paint.

there is documentation of failure of the glue on some backing plates after use @ a speed setting of 6, due to the heat generated .. .. so I have always failed safe .. I am more inclined to just grab the rotary if I need the extra power ..
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gipraw
I do also .. was referring to paint.

there is documentation of failure of the glue on some backing plates after use @ a speed setting of 6, due to the heat generated .. .. so I have always failed safe .. I am more inclined to just grab the rotary if I need the extra power ..
I had a pad fly apart on me when drying it out that way. It apparently had a tear in it, and the weight of the water, the heat, and the way the water got flung to the outer edge and then spun caused the pad to disintegrate. It was pretty cool to watch, though.


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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gipraw
who makes your backing plate ?
I'm not sure where I ordered it from - just a basic flexible backing plate. I haven't had a problem working that way with 2+ years of use on it.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Zane telling us to use speed six is like John Force telling use to go do burn outs.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sgt. Spuds
Zane telling us to use speed six is like John Force telling use to go do burn outs.
*I* don't think so, but use it however you're most comfortable.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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I would just buff out your wax by hand and only use the PC buffer/polisher to apply rubbing compound to remove light scratches and swirl marks.
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Originally Posted by ZaneO
*I* don't think so, but use it however you're most comfortable.
I do all my work by hand, no PC for me, but I just seen a chance to possibly be some what witty, guess it backfired lol. you do good work man, and I absolutly love your car...
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sgt. Spuds
I just seen a chance to possibly be some what witty, guess it backfired lol.
My bad...sometimes I'm a little dense
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Sgt. Spuds
I do all my work by hand, no PC for me, but I just seen a chance to possibly be some what witty, guess it backfired lol. you do good work man, and I absolutly love your car...

well. I laughed when I read it ..
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