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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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Could anyone tell me if the flatblack around the headlights on the LT1 cars is clearcoated from the factory? We have an LT1 car that has a chip in the paint in this area, and I don't know if the whole front has to be re-done. Thanks! Bob
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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I don't know specifically the answer to your question , but I can tell you that flat black becomes gloss black when clearcoated.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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I don't know specifically the answer to your question , but I can tell you that flat black becomes gloss black when clearcoated.
Thats what I thought, here is the situation. I have a customer who has an LT1. We accidentally chipped the flat black at the edge of one of the headlight areas, where it is flat black, when we did his front mount intercooler install. The chip is pretty thick, almost like it has bondo in there. Anyway, he said he had the front repainted one other time in this area, after he took off his head light covers, and the shop that did it told him they had to reclearcoat the hole front end as it is all clearcoated, and they charged him $500.00.
I'm not a bodyman, and I'm just wondering if this bodyshop overcharged him before. My guys also didn't think the flat black was clearcoated. Thanks! Bob
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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I had a black LT1 camaro and it was painted body color, not flat black.

If the car isn't black, then I'm not sure.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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there are flat blacks that are clearcoated with an additive that makes the finish dull, this is generally how the flat black and semi gloss paint jobs are done anymore. As for the trim on F-bodies I know they are typically done with a rattle can and the whole front is definitly not cleared.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Just repaint it semi-gloss.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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Tape it off, prep it, and use a semi gloss. If the car is white, they look good painted white as well.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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Thanks for the replies, everyone. I appreciate it! Bob
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I am pretty sure from the factory it's not painted AT ALL (except on black cars)... just exposed black plastic...

To MATCH the factory just spray that part in flat/satin black...

To look SLIGHTLY better than factory spray that part (ON BOTH SIDES) and on the grille opening (or it will no longer match) LOW-GLOSS or SEMI-GLOSS black...

To look AMAZING, spray that part (ON BOTH SIDES) and on the grille opening (or it will no longer match) black WITH A GOOD CLEAR COAT (no need to spray the whole bumper)...

There is a flat clear that is used on modern cars that want the flat black look (Charger Daytona for example) but that was not done on FACTORY paint for LT1 Camaros..

Which leads me to a question... since it was bondo'd (which is REALLY ODD for a urethane bumper) are you sure it's factory? Give us a pic and we can help you determine...
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Heres a pic of mine. Headlight and foglight areas are flat black. I think it looks a lot better that way.





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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by v7guy
there are flat blacks that are clearcoated with an additive that makes the finish dull, this is generally how the flat black and semi gloss paint jobs are done anymore. As for the trim on F-bodies I know they are typically done with a rattle can and the whole front is definitly not cleared.
are they really??
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 05:23 AM
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Hmm... Bob
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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I'm sorry, but I just can't see a canadian factory worker opening up rattle can after rattle can on the days they ran the camaros through the line.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RollTideTA
I'm sorry, but I just can't see a canadian factory worker opening up rattle can after rattle can on the days they ran the camaros through the line.
Whoever said that?!?! They just didn't paint that part of the bumper, it's still in black plastic...
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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All the 93-97 cars had black headlight buckets
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