Firebird Projector Headlights!!
Is modification necessary for an LT1 setup. I know the projectors go back a decent amount from the housing which may cause interference. I would hate to spend the money on this for me to put the lights down and BAM...
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Originally Posted by DirtyBird222
thats a question i kept on asking everyone that sells them and no one will do it. maybe nate will be nice enough to do this and get some lt1 housings to do this with too! 
Originally Posted by VIP1
A few questions:
* Does the package also include the two seperate high beam units or just the low beam?
* What bulb does that accept (D2S, H7 base with D2S bulb...)?
* Do these actually fit in place of the 4703 sealed beam or are they a 4X6 which would require some modification?
* Does the package also include the two seperate high beam units or just the low beam?
* What bulb does that accept (D2S, H7 base with D2S bulb...)?
* Do these actually fit in place of the 4703 sealed beam or are they a 4X6 which would require some modification?
Im waiting to hear back from him on the overall lenght of the housings, Im still not 100% sure if they are going to fit, with the projector they may be too long.
I know $1,000 is a lot of money, I can see where its coming from too. Projectors are exspensive, and the bulbs/ballasts are Hella which is where the bulk of the price is.
Once I hear back on the exact sizes I will know for sure if they are going to fit. I thought they would but from his discriptions Im starting to think not.
-Nathan
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No offense, but $1k and I still have to hack up the car to make them fit...um no. I'll buy the 90mm Hella H9 projectors for $115/pair and make them fit (check one of my previous posts with links) then later do a H9 HID retrofit for $250 - $350. Total cost would be $365 - $465 vs $1000. Those units do look nicer, but I'm more concerned by actual light output, beam pattern, and cost.....roughly 60% difference. I know other venders are charging in the $1000 range for this kit also (there was a thread here recently about it) so I know that you aren't trying to screw us (actually you've been quite helpful), but in all honesty, these would have to be $500/pair (or less) for the HID setup that fits in place of the 4703 sealed beam units in the 1998-2002 Firebird for me to buy them.
Side note, maybe you can put together a kit (HID and non) retrofitting the Hella 90mm H9 projectors.
Side note, maybe you can put together a kit (HID and non) retrofitting the Hella 90mm H9 projectors.
Last edited by VIP1; Dec 9, 2006 at 12:17 AM.
Nate the ones you posted in the picture are the LS1 style with the smaller housings. They also have the H4666 style housings for LT1s with a bi-xenon projector. The only modificiation for the LT1s might be creating enough room behind the pop-up like in the picture below. And before everyone starts saying thats to much, that is basically how much they sell anywhere you can find them for. I mean when you have the only product on the market like that you can pretty much control how much your vendors sell it for!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachmen...chmentid=72062
https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachmen...chmentid=72062
Originally Posted by LS1_SS
I don't think so. I'm still working out the details but I doubt it. I can't get them without the HID's, but Im working on it!
From the pictures it looks that way but Im not 100% sure yet. These also are 4x6.5, not the stock 98-02 size so fitting would have to be done. I want to say it's a D1S bulb, not sure yet.
Im waiting to hear back from him on the overall lenght of the housings, Im still not 100% sure if they are going to fit, with the projector they may be too long.
I know $1,000 is a lot of money, I can see where its coming from too. Projectors are exspensive, and the bulbs/ballasts are Hella which is where the bulk of the price is.
Once I hear back on the exact sizes I will know for sure if they are going to fit. I thought they would but from his discriptions Im starting to think not.
-Nathan
From the pictures it looks that way but Im not 100% sure yet. These also are 4x6.5, not the stock 98-02 size so fitting would have to be done. I want to say it's a D1S bulb, not sure yet.
Im waiting to hear back from him on the overall lenght of the housings, Im still not 100% sure if they are going to fit, with the projector they may be too long.
I know $1,000 is a lot of money, I can see where its coming from too. Projectors are exspensive, and the bulbs/ballasts are Hella which is where the bulk of the price is.
Once I hear back on the exact sizes I will know for sure if they are going to fit. I thought they would but from his discriptions Im starting to think not.
-Nathan
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Originally Posted by VIP1
No offense, but $1k and I still have to hack up the car to make them fit...um no. I'll buy the 90mm Hella H9 projectors for $115/pair and make them fit (check one of my previous posts with links) then later do a H9 HID retrofit for $250 - $350. Total cost would be $365 - $465 vs $1000. Those units do look nicer, but I'm more concerned by actual light output, beam pattern, and cost.....roughly 60% difference. I know other venders are charging in the $1000 range for this kit also (there was a thread here recently about it) so I know that you aren't trying to screw us (actually you've been quite helpful), but in all honesty, these would have to be $500/pair (or less) for the HID setup that fits in place of the 4703 sealed beam units in the 1998-2006 Firebird for me to buy them.
Side note, maybe you can put together a kit (HID and non) retrofitting the Hella 90mm H9 projectors.
Side note, maybe you can put together a kit (HID and non) retrofitting the Hella 90mm H9 projectors.
Originally Posted by DirtyBird222
Nate the ones you posted in the picture are the LS1 style with the smaller housings. They also have the H4666 style housings for LT1s with a bi-xenon projector. The only modificiation for the LT1s might be creating enough room behind the pop-up like in the picture below. And before everyone starts saying thats to much, that is basically how much they sell anywhere you can find them for. I mean when you have the only product on the market like that you can pretty much control how much your vendors sell it for!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachmen...chmentid=72062
https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachmen...chmentid=72062
Originally Posted by keliente
That's cool. These aren't made by those same folks that made them for the vette, are they? There was a big fiasco with them going under and taking a lot of $$.
Originally Posted by 01ls1lover
I could make those myself! holly **** dude a grand? your insane..
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Originally Posted by DirtyBird222
Nate the ones you posted in the picture are the LS1 style with the smaller housings.
Last edited by VIP1; Dec 9, 2006 at 01:03 AM.
they look nice, at least its a step in the right direction, I agree thats alot of money. Only thing I'd like to correct on is you said the hella bulbs/ballasts were the bulk of the 1k...I got mine 3 years ago for ~$340...did the price go up??
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Brand new from the factory they aren't that cheap.
PS: I am working on a cheaper, more practical projector right now. Hopefully have the first set one by January and more to come after that.
VIP1 is helping me out A LOT on this as well!!
-Nathan
PS: I am working on a cheaper, more practical projector right now. Hopefully have the first set one by January and more to come after that.
VIP1 is helping me out A LOT on this as well!!
-Nathan
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Originally Posted by Runn
I want to see them installed.