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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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maybe for gas mileage? but def not for performance..
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SIK02SS
maybe for gas mileage? but def not for performance..
Ah my good friend, one in the same, one in the same. It will reduce the size of the cars wake which reduces drag. Not only will the engine have to work less to maintain the same speed, but it will allow the car to accelerate quicker at high speeds and also improve it's top speed. All while reducing lift.
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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You know, I may just leave this front end alone. Here it is in case anyone is not familiar with it.

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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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The longer front nose kinda reminds me of Gonzo from the Muppets
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
Ah my good friend, one in the same, one in the same. It will reduce the size of the cars wake which reduces drag. Not only will the engine have to work less to maintain the same speed, but it will allow the car to accelerate quicker at high speeds and also improve it's top speed. All while reducing lift.


ya, but at normal day to day driving speeds, this is so minimal it at most might save you an extra couple miles/gallon. when i finally get mine together it will be removable and i'll only really use it at the track when i see straightaway speeds in triple digits. other f-body guys that do ORR and have a diffuser really only noticed the aerodynamic differences at 190+. yes it will help at lower speeds, but not a whole lot. and with air ride on your car it's (to me) obviously not a track car or ORR car to need that extra umph, speed, and aero?

i understand what you're saying and where you're coming from on it and i agree...it's just to what extent or what point i guess i'm questioning? bc at typical driving speeds it really doesn't do that much
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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it reminds me of the 69 dodge charger daytona.....regular charger with a nose cone. if u build it, they will buy,lol
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SIK02SS
and with air ride on your car it's (to me) obviously not a track car or ORR car to need that extra umph, speed, and aero?
My friend, I am all about handling. Do not confuse air ride for cruisers and pimp mobiles. With my adjustable konis it should handle with the best of them.
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 01:17 AM
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My friend, I am all about handling. Do not confuse air ride for cruisers and pimp mobiles. With my adjustable konis it should handle with the best of them.
do you have any way to know what the rates are? just curious..i know some air rides handle good, but the conventional spring/shock is still superior

and the koni's will help dampen it all, but not stop roll
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SIK02SS
do you have any way to know what the rates are? just curious..i know some air rides handle good, but the conventional spring/shock is still superior

and the koni's will help dampen it all, but not stop roll
The rates vary. As it compresses it gets stiffer. It's truly progressive as opposed to a progressive spring which only has 2 rates and switches between the 2. The compression rate varies based on the total volume of air it holds. For instance, a air bag that has 4" of travel is going to ride stiffer than one that has 8" of travel (assuming they have the same diameter and pressure in them). The Aero Sport front bags have a very small air volume as it is hollow in the center for the shock to fit through. You can always increase its volume by adding an accumulator or running large lines and having its valve far away, but its harder to reduce its volume. Luckily I think it will be sized just right.

You also don't want to stop roll, just control it.

I do like my 550 lb springs and GC coil over conversions, but there's just no way to control ride height with the push of a button. I did come up with a hydraulic solution that lets you use springs and shocks and still adjust ride height, but I ruled it out due to a few reasons.

You can check my threads on them it you want more details.
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I say get a splitter and be done with it

Bird splitters are in the works...

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=995032
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 6LITEREATER
I say get a splitter and be done with it

Bird splitters are in the works...

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=995032
Splitters tend to provide too much downforce on the front making the rearend light. A simple spoiler may be the better option.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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if you want a longer nose, just do an 93-97 front end swap IIRC the LT1 front end is 4 inches longer than the LS1 and the majority of it is in the nose (and some in the fenders)

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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
Splitters tend to provide too much downforce on the front making the rearend light. A simple spoiler may be the better option.
I don't know, Trans-Ams have quite the whale tale for down force in the back...
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
While you guys a here, what do you think of this diffusers looks? (my old rims)

hmmm looks familiar



i wanted to do this because of my side exhaust.
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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Looks cool, might be to long though, scrap a lot.
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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Where do I get the diffuser? I've been looking for one forever!
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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I cleaned up and restored this thread. Please keep it clean and somewhat on topic. Since this thread was about elongating the nose for improved aerodynamics and fuel economy its not that much of a stretch to discuss other aerodynamic tweaks.
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Old Oct 4, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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That's two strikes.
One more and this gets locked.
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Old Oct 5, 2008 | 03:46 AM
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i wouldnt do it. the front ends on TA's are about 20ft long already. all my import/ford friends always talk **** about our boats. but then they dont have **** to say once we get on the highway
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