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iTrader: (34)

Anyone have this $175 wax?

http://autogeek.net/wolfgang-fuzion-...r-car-wax.html

ArcticZ28

iTrader: (14)

Meguiar's #26 has no abrasives in it at all. It is not a cleaner-wax. NXT does have slight abrasives, and I say slight because it can be layered to a degree but does not have the cleaning power of a true cleaner-wax.

ArcticZ28

iTrader: (14)

Yes, but the wax protects the sealant underneath, making it last longer. Two layers of protection is better than one.

wannafbody

iTrader: (2)

Don't bet on it. Waxes contain solvents that can degrade the sealant. Zaino is truly layerable.

ArcticZ28

iTrader: (14)

Such as...

Gipraw

iTrader: (10)

no need to wait between layers of Carnauba.

ArcticZ28

iTrader: (14)

Anyone else know of a wax that degrades a sealant beneath it?

wannafbody

iTrader: (2)

S100 probably is safe over a sealant since it is beeswax and carnauba but it has poor durability. Many waxes have strong solvents and may degrade a polymer base. Sealants are better choices.

ArcticZ28

iTrader: (14)

Like what, though. I'm not familiar with any wax that will do that at all.

wannafbody

iTrader: (2)

Any wax with cleaners, abrasives or silicone oil in it.

ArcticZ28

iTrader: (14)

Well, yea. As already stated cleaner-waxes will do that, but not a true wax, which is why your reply to my statement about a true wax was a bit confusing. We don't want people in here thinking that a wax will degrade a sealant beneath it at all.

Gipraw

iTrader: (10)

you can overlay a sealant with any pure carnauba.

The purpose of doing that is to add depth to the finish. and to also help knock down the "wrapped in plastic" look that you get with the majority of sealants.

wannafbody

iTrader: (2)

Here's the issue. The 100% carnauba wax claim is misleading. The carnauba content may be 100% but it's mixed with polymers, silicones and solvents in most cases. The Zymols may be pure waxes and S100 is but most others-highly doubtful.

Klasse AIO may be more resistant to degradation that others because it's an acrylic.

ArcticZ28

iTrader: (14)

Haha, like I said... "like what"? You still haven't been able to give an example of a wax that will degrade a sealant, other than a cleaner-wax which is meant to degrade what is underneath it.

wannafbody

iTrader: (2)

Prove that you still have a layer of polymer under that carnauba

ArcticZ28

iTrader: (14)

OK. I figured that was the only basis behind your claim. Never mind.

Gipraw

iTrader: (10)

There is nothing wrong with topping a sealant with a carnauba. It will not degrade the sealant.

the issue with topping it with a cleaner wax is not that it will degrade it after it is sitting on it, but that the cleaning properties will remove part of the sealant during application.

This comes from face to face discussions with the chemists that make the stuff.

83TA02

I just use meguiars nxt tech wax/paste. Which ever one. It all works great. Between waxes I just use the new 10 dollar a bottle meguiars new ultimate detailer. I've found that Ice works great on black cars.

ArcticZ28

iTrader: (14)

Gipraw, you're forgetting that the proof that waxes degrade sealants is in the fact that the onus is on us to prove that it hasn't degraded the sealant beneath. You still haven't proven it! hahah.